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Ah, I'm glad to see the thorium / MSR bros are still spewing their nonsense after all those years.
And how long have fusion dipshits been spouting their crap? 1938 was the first attempt. Look how far we've got so far? There was a working MSR(E) that produced 10MW through out the 1960's but we are the crackpots. Gotcha...
Oh wow, 10MW, fantastic. Our energy issues are solved!
It was an experiment that was only a part reactor hence the (E) on MSR. They still had to build the "blanket" portion of the reactor.
Also the inventor of the light water reactor which is primarily used across the world and even influenced the CANDU reactors was designed by Alven Wineberg, the same person who designed the MSRE and was in favor or MSRs in general
So then there's clearly nothing stopping the world from a broad adoption!
Just the fact that the US govt couldn't make bombs with MSR's so they cut all funding and this causes people to think the technology doesn't work when in reality it would destroy current monopolies because it does work and is crazy cheap. Would also allow for these to be built almost anywhere because it doesn't need water to operate like Light water reactors
Ah, yes, the whole world of the United States of America! o7
What other country was working on MSR?
Yeah use your brain man
China is from the last I read.
In the 1950/60's which country was working on MSR? China is using the plans from Oakridge to build their current MSR.
America was the only country to do any work on one. The Atomic Energy Commission cut funding and this is why people think MSR are a failure
Oh, yeah no one back then, as you said The US figured out they couldn't make weapons with it and shelves it
Right back to you my friend who still blindly takes the bait. You still don't even understand why there's no broad usage of MSR and spew your nonsense reasons for both pro and contra.
If MSR are not feseable then why did the creator of both want MSR to be built instead of light water?
It is entirely able to be built and one albeit not a full on breeder reactor was built and ran for 15000 hours.
Just saying it won't work doesn't make it so.
When the world starts buying these from China I'll make sure to say I fucking told ya so
If MSR are so feasible then why is not one building them left right and center?
Just saying it works doesn't make it so.
When the world doesn't start buying these from China I'll make sure to not say I fucking told ya so, because I quite frankly don't give a shit, and neither does the world.
China currently is off of what designs are left that were made at Oak Ridge in the 60's. They are doing the work that should have been completed in the 1970's at Oak Ridge.
Energy independence free from petroleum that could help desalinate water and capture CO2 from the atmosphere mean anything to you?
How about using nuclear waste from light / heavy water reactors to make more energy? Or making isotope that can better kill cancer without harming the rest of your body?
Yes it may be hard but it was proven to be feasible whether you like it or not by people much smart then you or I and is leaps and bounds easier than fusion hence the reason for them building one in the 1960's.
I have some news for you. If were feasible, then it would've been adapted already. The reason that it isn't should give you a hint.
We will let China deal with that as they are working on it right now
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https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Operating-permit-issued-for-Chinese-molten-salt-re
@n3m37h @DarkThoughts Wow, I mean the writing has been on the walls for years that China has been way ahead on the making it go part. I'm hopeful that they will publish some publicly available science that the rest of us can learn from. Nothing quite like running it a while to gain insight.
I know, it's a shame that the US let this one slip. Regardless once this gets figured out it will do the entire world good... Maybe...