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[–] SuspiciousFlop8964@sh.itjust.works 31 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Service A is compelled to hand over all the data it has on a user

They comply

Service B is compelled to hand over all the data it has on a user

They comply

"And that's how it's done!"

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 8 points 15 hours ago

Proton has the disadvantage of having to work with other email services as well, so there's protocol limitations. When mailing from one Proton mailbox to another, they do intentionally avoid SMTP for this reason, but Signal has the advantage of "owning" the whole protocol, too.

I imagine if you donate with a CC to Signal, they might also be forced to turn that over. The weakness is not in Signal or Proton, but in the Visa/Mastercard duopoly and CC processing in general. Cryptocurrency has some advantages here, but they are outweighed by the abuse, fraud, speculation, and general dishonestly (and just general failure to be good currencies for "normal" purchases.)

[–] blujan@sopuli.xyz 7 points 16 hours ago

The criticism is that better privacy can be achieved by not saving data, it is a good criticism but I don't know how legit it is because I don't know if credit card payments can be processed without saving the data (i would assume yes, if tokenized)