            
              I have never been asked to verify my recovery key.
It asks to verify pin once a month. Which I think is fair, since it can help you recover from a lockout / transfer your device.
backups are important, but they can also be disabled
Donating to open source projects is important, as it's a large portion of their funding.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree with all your points, BUT I do think Signal could be slightly less "user-hostile" with the reminders, maybe?

I get annoyed at the pop-ups in my Linux system, too, and all of them are got similarly legitimate reasons. Getting the way of my current task (or worse stealing focus) doesn't ever seem like the "right" way for computers/tools to behave.

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How obtrusive are the popups? Are you on iPhone or Android? The pin verify popup is like 20% of the screen at the bottom for me. And it's nearly the same color as the background, so I sometimes don't even notice it. Or at least, I finally see it and think "how long has that been there?"

I agree that some things can probably be scaled back. But wouldn't it be an even worse experience if someone forgot their pin, and thus was unable to access their data?

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 15 hours ago

Android and desktop. I'm no UX designer, so I don't know what the ideal is, but when I'm using the software with a purpose, anything that gets in the way of that purpose is (at best) an annoyance. I'm probably wrong, but I think I'd prefer a passive notification to verify pin / donate / whatever that triggers after/as I leave Signal for something else -- a indicator I'm done with my purpose (albeit flawed; maybe I just need to copy info from FF or whatever.)

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It asks to verify pin once a month. Which I think is fair, since it can help you recover from a lockout / transfer your device.

Even that is too annoying. OK, I just realized there's a way to turn off reminders. Trust me bro, I'm not gonna forget. I'm a big boy.

backups are important, but they can also be disabled

Ah! YES! Thanks! I just poked around deeper in the settings and disabled them. Backups are not important to me. I don't want to backup my messages.

I have never been asked to verify my recovery key.

Maybe it's because I had backups on? Let's see if this popup goes away.

Donating to open source projects is important, as it’s a large portion of their funding.

Agreed. Which is why I donate to them.... And I still get the popups! I'm already a donor, leave me alone.

Overall, I want to give my attention to my messages, not to Signal. Leave me alone. Let me message people. I don't want to be nagged. WhatsApp doesn't nag people nearly as much. I know Signal is overall better, but user annoyances like the excessive popups makes it harder for me to try to convince normal people to use Signal.

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago

The reminder is a good idea. Maybe tone it down to every 3 months after a year. Although, I don't think it's that big a deal.