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[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

New wave of OpenBSD users incoming. Good.

[–] whimsy@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Non GPL software isn't an answer to freedom restrictions

[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The GPL restricts more freedom than the BSD licenses do.

[–] whimsy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For whom? It restricts the "freedom" of corporate and capitalistic leeches who don't contribute back to the commons

[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 1 points 1 day ago

It forces everyone who wants to contribute anything to use the GPL as well.

The freedom to just take my free code, fork it into a closed product and become rich with it is important to me, because my goal is to write good software that is useful for as many people as possible. Why wouldn’t I want my good software to make people’s lives better just because the entity that sells it does not contribute anything back? Honestly, there is a lack of value for me.

[–] waitmarks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s not like OpenBSD is exempt from the law. If they aren’t implementing some version of it, they are just hoping no one enforces anything.

[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Unlike Linux, OpenBSD is not under US jurisdiction.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Linux is not an operating system, it's just the kernel and has no concept of users/accounts or logging in to anything.

A great many Linux-based distros ("operating systems") are not under US jurisdiction.

[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Linux is not an operating system

Please do not start the "GNU/Linux" pedantry now.

many Linux-based distros (“operating systems”) are not under US jurisdiction

Repackaging US software - and Linux-the-kernel and much of Linux-the-userland is, obviously, US software - in Europe does not suddenly make US jurisdiction go away.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have any reasonable point that invalidates mine?

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you see the difference of kernel maintainers in a particular jurisdiction being subject to their individual national law, however silly it may be, and the Linux kernel and derivates being licensed under GPL?

[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 2 points 1 day ago

I see that the leaders of kernel development had to remove maintainers for legal reason, because Linux is legally U.S.-based, so U.S. sanctions matter.

Yes, anyone could just fork it. But right now, the only relevant version of Linux is the one that is an U.S. kernel. 🤷‍♂️

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds

And finland citizen, dual. So not under us jurisdiction when not in us.

[–] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then why, you think, did he have to remove U.S.-sanctioned maintainers?

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Excuse me what the fuck

In https://lwn.net/Article/995186 they say because linux foundation is based in US. Why the fuck they do that? You right linux under us jurisdiction.

[–] waitmarks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

It’s still an operating system. Not implementing something is saying “this OS is not to be used in a country / state with age verification laws” Basically baring anyone in california or wherever implements these laws from using the OS in a legal way. I suspect most of these OS’s (even ones that are not “under US jurisdiction”) are going to eventually do something like when you install it asks where you are located and if its in a location where age verification is required it installs the age verification system.