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[–] DariosDentist@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I get that Fox was ahead of Tyrese in development and they wanted to get him help to make the play offs but HOW THE FUCK DO YOU TRADE THIS GUY? He was doing this same shit in Sacramento as a rookie

[–] Impressive_Corner207@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

We literally traded and got an All-NBA center that was a way better fit next to Fox. Everyone also acting like Fox isn't putting up close to 30 a night in crazy efficiency.

[–] quadropheniac@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU TRADE THIS GUY?

Because the whole was less than the sum of its parts and we got the third best center in the NBA in return?

Like, this isn't fantasy basketball, at the end of the day you need to put a product on the court, and the trade made the Kings a dramatically better team.

[–] tarunpopo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tyrese would've been wasted on the kings if he stayed. Neither fox nor Hali would've been the players they are today.

This is not a shot at hali but what Carlisle is doing is what Hali needed, a team of his own to maximize everything hali was good at and put the ball in his hands or run plays through him. I personally don't think this mega dominant style with a lot of assists leads to actual succes in the playoffs, but it's bringing out everything of hali especially with all the shooters. And when the time comes when mathurin or whoever else as a star comes up where they can trust to put the ball in their hands instead of Tyrese, then the team can start winning and change it up a bit. It was good for Hali and fox, the kings needed another big anyways. Having 2 of the same thing isn't always better

[–] Transky13@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’d challenge your statement about his mega dominant style. He’s a lot less dominant than some other stars. For the amount of points he generates his time with the ball is lower than some other extremely ball dominant players and his usage is only at 25%

He just stuffs the stat sheet because he’s SO efficient at what he does. He doesn’t stand there and pound the rock like prime Harden for example

[–] tarunpopo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

That's what I mean it's not a bad thing because he's good at it on this young team that can shoot and run transition. Maybe he doesn't have the ball a lot and doing harden stuff where he camps with the ball but stuff is run through him a lot

[–] Its_Hoggish_Greedly@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

People forget, but Fox's value was at it's absolute lowest when we made this trade. He bulked up in the offseason and lost all his shooting touch and wasn't as explosive. We could've traded Fox, but it would've been for like... Tobias Harris. That doesn't get us to where we are now.