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Man, there are some watch zealots in here, thinking that a verbal gentleman’s agreement about a collection outweighs $200k in estate property rights. There’s nothing to think about, you have to give them to the wife, right away. Legally, morally, in terms of business-ethics and your reputation, your exposure here is massive.
I’m sorry for your loss.
I suspect something else is behind the watch zealotry, too. Probably not a coincidence we’re talking about a wife, not a husband.
Bros before hoes.
Legally sure, but whats your president for this being the moral decision?
“He kept his watch collection with me”
“He lets me use the watches”
OP doesn’t claim to own or have been given these watches. They are not his. Purchases made during a marriage are generally considered joint property, purchased with joint funds. The widow inherits the husband’s estate, including all property and applicable debt of that estate. For all we know, the watches were bought on credit, with the debt still owed by the estate.
Good point, if OP has been given the watches unofficially by his friend what would be the moral move now?
Man its almost like this is a watch subreddit
Keep 1?
Seriously. Respectfully, even the deceased’s logic is messed up. “She would spend them on clothes and trips.” Okay? Watches are clothes, so no difference there. And she surely deserves a trip now so fuck it. Give them back.
Its his stuff not his wife’s, also for many people there is a sentimental attachment to watches and having them sold off after you die would seem horrible to them
It was his stuff, but since he died without a will that stuff belongs to his estate. If he felt sentimental enough about them and wanted to keep them from her he could have written a will that did exactly that.
Yeah if you look at it from the standpoint of the law but consider your friend especially if you’re not gonna face any consequences for breaking the law. He couldn’t have written him into the will otherwise the wife would’ve seen it on the will and got upset
If any of my friends asked me to help hide 200k from their spouse, I wouldn't have done it. I don't have much sympathy for OP or his friend in this case (I mean about the watch thing specifically, I obviously have sympathy about the person passing away and OP grieving that loss). If his wife finds out, she should absolutely be upset about this. It's a shitty, inexcusable thing for her husband to have done.