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[–] Syndic@feddit.de 47 points 11 months ago (3 children)

And will only get even more bolder as a consequence. It's quite fascinating how that shit head is exposing so many flaws in the current political system. And yet very little is done about it.

[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish it were only the political system, but it is also the social contract that is being broken.

Not everything in a society can and should be regulated by law. For example, we know not to cough or sneeze in someone else's face, but to put our arm or hand in front of our face. It's not a law and yet 99% of people know it and do it and call out people who don't.

The US political system worked well for a while because there were do's and don'ts that weren't made into law, but every politician respected them to some degree. The GOP no longer respects anyone or anything, not an unwritten rule or even a written law, but they want to be respected, they want their rights to be respected.

This is not just happening in the US, I see it happening in the UK and Germany for example. Basic respect for each other is being lost more and more, between families, between neighbours, even between politicians. How do you get that back?

We don't know how to deal with it as a society. We can't have a law for everything. We depend on people and politicians to keep within the minimum social rules and follow an unwritten code, and we have nothing to punish them if they don't and they just ignore these rules and spit on them.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is literally why China adopted a social credit system, which penalizes spitting in general but also includes spitting on rules.

Not saying it is the best solution, just saying it exists.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I mean I get the feeling that it isn't being applied equally to magnates and high ranking officials

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Edit- Retracting my statement as I read your reply as "justice system" not "political system."

I shouldn't be awake.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It's a double edged sword to build up this much shit. We saw with the court cases that nothing happened until one person decided to make a move. After that, the indictments came flooding in.

Someone needs to be willing to be the first one to throw his orange ass in jail for obstruction of justice and witness intimidation. But after that first person moves, I think we'll see everyone move, and it'll all collapse on him.

It's certainly a flaw though, as you point out. Needing one brave person to stick their neck out to maintain rule of law isn't great.