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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You are right, but there were also several studies done that proved the speed cameras lowered speeda significantly, even after the camera had been relocated.

Lets not let perfect be the enemy of good. Those cameras reduced speeds and generated revenue for the city that was specifically dedicated to making streets safer, including bollards, lane narrowing and speed humps. The removal of the cameras both made the streets more dangerous, and cut funding for real safety improvements. All because speeders were getting caught speeding and considered that unfair.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sure. But if roads are built for the speed, the road enforces the speed. If driving faster will shake you so badly that it feels like an accident, most people won't do it. Also making streets narrow, with tight road crossings and curves, and subjectively more dangerous to the car drivers, actually makes streets safer, especially for people outside of cars.

Of course that is not possible everywhere and then speeding controls, including cameras are the next best thing.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We can't just update the roads for free. The cameras were a big part of the plan to make the roads safer.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Sure and don't get me wrong, this pro reckless driving action is nothing I support either.