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So much effort to steal a good game π€£
βIf buying isnβt owning, piracy isnβt stealingβ
true!
It's such a dumb line, own up to stealing like a badass instead of pussyfooting around the term.
Donβt blame me because you donβt understand the definition of the word. Try reading the article and actually learning something, instead of deflecting from your ignorance, lol
When you don't pay for rent is it stealing?
When you rent something and take it over, is it stealing?
Highlighting the problems with renting something (that it can be taken away) doesn't change that. And to claim you're free to steal anything you rent because it's not really stealing doesn't give any merit, it just makes you look like a bitch.
You can assume all closed source software is a rental because you have no idea when it will stop working. The idea that you can reverse engineer it while admirable isn't realistic for 99% of the population, if it were then there wouldn't be a reason to have it be closed source.
we get it: you don't understand what the word "stealing" means, and making false accusations against me and slinging childish insults won't distract from the fact that what you're saying is nonsense, lol
If you want to get into a debate of copying vs stealing then go ahead but it has nothing to do with the line about "it's not stealing if you were renting it"
you're the one who wants to debate anything, and you're the one who brought up "renting" anything's when I never mentioned that. once again, demonstrating how you have no clue what you're talking about - and, obviously, no clue what i'm talking about, lol
troll on, troll...
Scroll up, we're talking about a game on Steam. That's a rental.
lmao, we get it. you don't know what you're talking about. you don't need to keep trying to convince us.
Your example was paying rent and the quote is about buying. You do know that there's a difference, right?
If you read the TOS then you'd see you're renting the game. Steam can revoke your access.
Hence how it's not owned, you're paying for a period of use.
It says purchase.
"grants a license" not "grants ownership"
You're renting it until Steam decides to revoke it. The article talks about these not being owning but you have to know going into it that you're not buying the product, you're buying a seat to use the product. That's renting. You're paying for access.
Steam changed that after people complained, rightfully and a lot. Also, them granting a "license" is part of the problem. There's no reason for them to not sell you your own copy of the game other than to benefit shitty game devs.
It honestly never ceases to amaze me how eager some people are to get fucked over by corporations. Why are you even defending this?
everything steam did for consumer protection is less about "people complained" and more about "EU courts don't fuck with that shit".
Steam store pages were misleading for well over a decade. EU courts didn't give a shit for a long time
that's irrelevant. they point is change came when scrutiny began.
Defending what?
Shitty business practices that actively fuck over consumers.
Where have I defended that?
gestures wildly all around
I said I was pro stealing.
way to miss the point
I don't pirate games, but I also don't buy games I otherwise would if they have denuvo. Always online DRM punishes paying customers and frustrates game preservation.
So I'll cheer every time a Denuvo game gets cracked.
Denuvo notably impacts both the performance and long term preservation of games. I imagine many people might buy a game, then download the cracked version without denuvo just for the performance gain.
And also independence from Steam (or any other that also forces the launcher from it and makes you wait for the mandatory updates to only then be able to play)
You could disable automatic updates.
Unfortunately this doesn't stop the game from requiring an update. Automatic or not, if an update gets pushed, you don't get to choose to stay on the older version without putting yourself in offline mode.
Denuvo is an always-online DRM. It will expire its session and prevent play unless re-authenticated. It's wild to me how the view around this has shifted. Back in 2013, this is how Microsoft wanted to design an entire gaming ecosystem. They got backlash, but it turned out they were just too up front about it. Instead we've had a decade of games that have slipped this requirement in through DRM and anti-cheat measures.
Or the fact you get better game performance because Denuvo is a poorly optmize piece of shit.
your right, we should've been putting that effort into a bad game instead π