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    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Because you want a cross platform solution?

    I get that electron can be slow, bloated, etc, but the amount of ire it draws is overboard.

    [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yes but sometimes, for example core parts of windows 11 like the start menu, don't need to be cross platform and should be native, not a pwa

    [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

    Especially since they had already native code in previous windows...

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

    Lol I mean I would never use windows 11 or defend that use of it. I'm just saying a valid use of electron is to target multiple platforms with minimal development hurdles.

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Having built applications with Microsoft's mfc, Java's swing, the omnipresent Qt, and whatever nastiness Mac was using in the early 00's, electron is worth the silliness. Trust me. Trust me.

    [–] bradboimler@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    As an engineer, Swing is great! Granted, I wouldn't use it to deliver a polished UI to users.

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    The individual things themselves weren't really the issue. Swing was by far my favorite.

    The issue was cross platform ui development. If you didn't target Java, swing wasn't viable.

    [–] bradboimler@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    Swing was by far my favorite.

    Nice. My team constantly gripes about it but I'm all, "...it's a well designed UI toolkit...?" I can make it do anything. It took me weeks (as a newbie) to try to lay out UI components just so with the new hotness and at the end I had to give up and move on. It would've taken me five minutes to do it with Swing.

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

    Swing is what all these xml layout tools have been trying to replicate, honestly. Some get close, but far too few.

    It warmed my heart when GWT basically copied swing for its layout. Made that super easy to learn.

    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Reminder to talk to your doctor about a colonoscopy

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Ugh. Cancel reminder, ready to take my chances with rectal cancer...

    [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    the omnipresent Qt

    So weird. I spent more than two years of my career working on a Qt app (not by choice) but I've never met another human being who has ever even heard of Qt. Nothing else has ever made me so certain that I'm clinically insane.

    My favorite thing about Qt was the use of C++ for the back end and Javascript for the UI layer. It lets companies take advantage of the, uh, four people in the world who are good with both languages.

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Hah! Yeah, qt has some really neat interfacing. And it is in so many places you wouldn't expect it to be...

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I'll admit I'm not versed enough as a developer to grasp this so I'll take your word for it.

    ... I'mma just build my cross platform programs in Godot and nobody can stop me. >:)

    [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I won't, Godot is perfectly cromulent.

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Because different OSes follow different Human Interaction Guidelines and I expect that applications follow the native look and feel.

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

    following every linux de/wm's interaction guidelines seems pretty hard

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Ok, seems like a separate issue. The question was why do this and I gave an answer. Doesn't mean it's wrong because you can find a reason not to do it.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

    the amount of ~~ire~~ CPU cycles / frames / watts it draws is overboard. Lol

    (Trying to be funny not aggressive lol)

    For real though, I think it's just because it epitomizes that "Hardware is fast now so throw sluggishly interpreted high-level code at it and don't even bother with optimization" mentality.

    Like I remember when people would bash Python over this, but Electron apps make that feel way overblown now.

    (Also Python did nothing wrong :( lol)

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Electron is broken in implementation

    We need something like React native for desktop

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah, something better is welcome for sure.