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The man told jurors he spent hours listening to far-right podcasts before breaking into the Pelosi home and attacking the then-Speaker’s husband with a hammer.

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[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 107 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The dumbest possible thing to be radicalized by.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 62 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Right? Gamergate is something I've never understood at all. Like... People try to summarize the whole thing for me and after two sentences I just blank out entirely because it's all so weird, convoluted and dumb.

A gigantic "he-said-she-said" that somehow devolved into tons of harassment, death threats, violence and "calling someone's boss so they'd get fired because they weren't nice enough online" or something...

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

People are already teetering on the edge. Mental health treatment and awareness in this country is replaced by toxic masculinity and the idea that taking care of your head is for cucks.

Was he radicalized for it, or is it what finally set him over? These are two very different things, even if they may immediately appear “the same”.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

dude was living in a garage playing video games and presumably under or unemployed. I wish we would just pay to let these people live an ok if unremarkable life already.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How actually historically relevant it is is just mindboggling. It is literally the codification and beginning of the alt-right. Britebart news guy and eventual Presidential advisor Steve Bannon and a massive swack of the early alt talking heads right got their start with Gamergate. It's essentially the proving ground of the model of engagement and the networking that brought the scum together.

I suggest Ian Danskin's talk on "A Case Study of Digital Radicalization " https://youtu.be/lLYWHpgIoIw?si=WD8gi7XXFVrIKg-n

It is one of the best breakdowns of Gamergate I have ever heard while keeping sight of just how bloody insane the whole thing is. It's a really long video yes but it really has some interesting takes on digital Radicalization and a key part of the modern history of how we got where we are.

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

It's incredibly fucking stupid.

I was even on /v/ at the time and it still doesn't make sense to me.

Just shows how seriously people can take their dumb niches and conflate them to be representative of the whole world.

Idiots.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ian Miles Cheong got his start with Gamergate. That sholud tell you everything you need to know about what it was.

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Cheong was around before gamergate. He switched from being left leaning to full on alt right to get that grift going.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's all you need to hear, not all there is to know. Plenty of extremists use legitimate movements or concerns to prey upon those desperate individuals who are seeking redress.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dude, I watched gamergate spring up. I damn well know what it was and the damage it caused not just to gaming but to politics in general.

When Steve Bannon decides to use your movement as a recruiting tool and playbook, you KNOW it’s rotten.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

Your 1-sentence answer to understanding Gamergate has less to do with any of the people involved or a timeline of events. Gamergate, more than anything else, was an opportunity. A springboard to indoctrinate people into far right politics by playing to people's fear of the Other, mistrust in media, and stoking anger at a perceived scandal.

If it never happened, if it wasn't video games, it would just as well be something else. It would be music or sports or anything that people are passionate about. Right wingers were running out of steam with the Tea Party, and Gamergate was in the right place at the right time.

EDIT: Some contemporary discussion on GG actually, prophetically, supports this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2k0bpi/why_gamergate_is_a_rightwing_movement/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstGamerGate/comments/2km45o/a_few_days_ago_i_said_that_gamergate_was_a_right/

As someone on another forum said, the GG movement is primed to be the next young Republican demographic, and all of the pieces have been put into place to subvert the Authoritarian revolt into a rabid conservative base. So next year when all of the GGers (who remain) go from moderate liberals to Tea Party advocates, you can say you were at ground zero.

https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/comments/l3fq6t/the_tea_party_and_gamergate_were_things_i_was/

That got me thinking about my Q/MAGA following father and how both being indoctrinated into Tea Party politics as a teenage boy on top of Evangelical Christianity as well as being sucked into Gamergate and Sargon of Akkad's whole "classical liberalism" grift for a while. I see a lot of that same outrage and ingroup-outgroup clashing being taken advantage of by Q and MAGA.