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Who is he?
Hasan Piker, a left wing political commentator on the internet, who's popular among the 18-35 set
under attack by his closest aligning party, because he is threatening right wing democrats position, and gamesmanship of the vote
Are you implying Hasan is aligned in any way with the Democrats?
no, i am implying that of the two parties, the democrats are the closest yet they are spending their influence in atacking the left pull of their base. and Hasan is the attackable face of this pressure, as oppose to doing their fucking job in fighting tyranny.
So what? They're still extremely far away and their ideology (Liberalism) is completely incompatible with Hasan's (Marxist-Leninism).
There is 0 incentive for Democrats to include someone like Hasan in their coalition.
ok?
so what?
again, they are spending more effort into attacking someone who is a representative of the left pull of the democratic base.
instead of doing their fucking job.
it is clear that democrats want the same things as republicans, but are not as brazen. they don’t want to interface with a youtuber, cool, fine, whatever, i don’t really care.
but they ignore the progressive pull at their own peril. it is already proved that they no longer have the leverage to demand a conservative democrat as a candidate and actually win elections.
By what metric? Sounds like you're just mad that Democrats rightfully don't want to include someone in their movement who's core ideology is completely incompatible.
i don’t care at all about Hasan. he’s not running for office, he is just some face that is saying more progressive talking points, and is getting screen time for it.
if your TRUE argument is that the progressive base ideology is incompatible with the establishment democrat position… then yes i agree.
at that point, the democrats have a choice. they make concessions with their own fucking base or voter apathy rises. they already failed in an election with hitler, and their key take away was that they need to meet the republican voter where he stands. they can do that with out me. but i doubt they can do that and win an election.
when trump violates human rights, schumer wags his finger and sends a polite rebuke.
when a progressive candidate runs, the entire establishment pulls out their wallet and evey under handed bullshit to undermine their own party!
when progressive ideals pass on a state level ballot, they sue to stop it.
so fuck them
Any evidence that voter apathy due to the Dems not being ML enough is costing them elections?
i don’t know but i can sure as hell deal without the constant bitching and moaning that the conscientious objectors and the non voting left costing the democrats the election. if you don’t feel that the progressives have the numbers, you will have to take that up with the democratic party messaging, and the result of the leaked internal investigation into the loss of the presidential election and the loss of the mayor election to Zohran Mamdani.
but you can’t argue that the democrats havn’t lost on their ground.
Man, you're really all over the place.
So you think Dems need to court MLs to win elections, but you can't actually back that up with anything. But that if they don't, they are wasting effort and not doing their job.
What a mess of an opinion.
it’s pretty straight forward
first, not ml’s, progressives.
second, they need the more votes, and courting the right is insufficient. that’s backed by their internal report, and their losses with their preferred candidates.
third, they are not doing their job because they do not counter the republican party. they waste their time instead maintaining power of corporate democrats
these are all consistent
Hasan is an open ML, and you're saying the Dems need people sharing his views to get votes.
Source?
Do not counter the Republican party how? They don't have the seats...
https://lemmy.world/post/45610837
the government shut down was gaining political traction and leverage with the progressive vote for progressive candidates. they _immediately _ abandoned all leverage once this was clear, and gave in to all republican demands signaling that progressive control was more dangerous to party control.
I didn't say dems are perfect, or haven't been dropping the ball.
I'm making the case that courting someone who's goal is to promote communism and who's anti-liberal views are completely at odds with the party is obviously not of interest or a good move for the Dems.
my argument have never been that the democrats needed to interface at all with Hassan, but they are spending their efforts into attacking him as a further battle against the growing progressive base. this includes astro turfing false narratives against him that you have brought up.
my point is that they are not merely dropping the ball, that they are making a concerted effort to court the right and fighting to prevent progressives from gaining sway over the party.
the argument that the report is an “opinion” is in bad faith. its methodology is sound, its conclusions are measurable and it corllates to democratic actions in giving up the shutdown. and is backed by the establishment actively attempting to suppress it
these are not dropping the ball, this is a pattern of internal alignment with the republicans over their own base.
Again, they are not spending significant effort "attacking" Hasan that's keeping them from doing other things. That's a fantasy.
i don’t care about Hassan, it’s not about him, he is just yet another example of the larger effort the democratic party expends to fight against the progressive base from getting control.
if your argument is that effort at self sabotage, that has cost them the election due to voter apathy, i disagree. and the numbers show it.
if the argument is that this internal sabotage isn’t what is stopping them from doing their job, then that means they are “dropping the ball” by choice
And yet you say that pushing back against him trying to inject himself into the part takes significant effort from the party that could be devoted to other things.
If we agree that Hasan is a bad example of a person they'd want in the coalition, then who are these other "progressive" figures they are spending so much effort fighting against?
It’s not about finding a 'perfect' individual; it's about the documented institutional effort to crush the progressive wing regardless of the candidate.
If you want examples of who the party fights, look at the 2024 and 2026 primary cycles. The establishment (via groups like AIPAC and the Democratic Majority for Israel) spent over $100 million,the most in U.S. history, specifically to unseat progressives like Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush. In the 2026 special election in New Jersey, they even turned on a former moderate like Tom Malinowski the second he suggested conditioning aid to Israel.
This isn't about Hasan, it’s about the fact that the DNC recently voted down a resolution to limit the influence of dark money and corporate PACs in Democratic primaries. They are effectively keeping the door open for Republican billionaire mega-donors (like Miriam Adelson) to fund 'Democratic' primary campaigns against progressives.
When the party leadership chooses to protect that dark money pipeline instead of their own base, they aren't dropping the ball, they are protecting their donors.
My point stands: the establishment perceives a loss to a Republican as a manageable setback, but they perceive a progressive takeover of the party as an existential threat. The spending records prove it.
So then we agree that this comment was either nonsense or bait.
NO,
he is facing attacks from the democrat party, because he represents a progressive shift. and the democrats are doing so because they see progressive movement as a larger threat then the republican party.
this is consistent to my whole argument, and why i said that.
What's your strongest example of a Democrat attacking Hasan for his progressive views?
Abdul El-Sayed campaigned with Hasan at Michigan State and the University of Michigan. the Haley Stevens and Senator Elissa Slotkin came out and condemned it and announced they are shunning Hasan and anyone who reaches out to him.
Senator Mallory McMorrow directly compared him as the Nick Fuentes of the left. a direct comparison to a white supremisist neo nazi.
Rep. Brad Schneider has outright and publicly labeled him an anti-semite
Jonathan Cowan wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed titled "Draw a Line in the Sand," stating: "No Democrat should engage with him. All should seek to push him to the fringe, where he belongs."
he was kicked out of the 2024 DNC because he criticized the democratic party complicity in the genocide in gaza.
if you don’t consider these attacks on his voice and his character, then by that logic the establishment never attacked trump either.
I consider them attacks against his character, of course. And I outlined exactly why they are attacking his character.
I asked you for examples of them attacking him based on his "progressive views".
That's your claim.
You justify attacks on his character and ignore why he is targeted to avoid admitting that the party is hostile to the left. You asked for examples of them attacking him for his views, and I gave you a list of high-ranking Democrats who used astroturfed labels like ml, neo-Nazi and antisemite, the exact moment he started campaigning for an arms embargo in Michigan.
That isn't a character critique it's a political hit job designed to make his progressive views radioactive. If they didn't care about his views, they wouldn't have kicked him out of the 2024 DNC for his stance on Gaza, and the DNC wouldn't have just voted in New Orleans to protect the dark money PACs that fund these character assassinations. You’re not arguing in good faith, you’re justifying a purge by pretending it’s a personality conflict.
I have explained exactly why he's targetted several times now.
Oh my b thought it was Steven Seagal.
Steven Seagal