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I'm sick of hearing this. Hillary Clinton was roundly disliked by a lot of people, not just conservatives. Remember when she tried to ban GTA San Andreas over the Hot Coffee mod? She literally went out of her way to center Trump in the media and used her media connections to promote Trump and Cruz as whackadoos, unintentionally giving Trump more media coverage. She thought for sure she was gonna be running against Jeb Bush in the general, which put a lot of people off who didn't want another Bush or Clinton in the White House. She was rude to her constituents. She told a young black woman who had spend $1000 to be able to meet with Mrs. Clinton that she should stop complaining and run for office herself. Why are we going to continue to ignore a historically unpopular choice as a candidate and someone who doubled down on her worst takes, like being proud of her friendship with war criminal and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Maybe it's not women as much as that specific woman.
Harris was a better candidate, but because Biden wouldn't step away we didn't get a primary, and that left a lot of voters feeling very much like we've had candidates forced down our throat by the DNC that weren't really chosen by the people for 10 fucking years running. Why can't we consider that maybe treating your voters like shit and constantly swinging to try to capture Republican voters instead of, you know, getting their own voters excited just isn't that big of a draw. For real, bringing out Dick "Darth Vader" war criminal Cheney was fucking idiotic because the shit him and GW Bush pulled helped set the stage for Trump. I think this attitude that "America won't vote for a woman" is a poor and honestly sexist misreading of the political climate.
People didn't want a political dynasty with Clinton, just like they didn't want another Bush (Jeb) who happened to be a man in the same election. Americans generally are against political dynasties because Americans are generally fickle and want to be able to kick out the last bastard. The conservatives for whatever reason are just too fuck stupid to see that Trump is breaking every system that allows them to do so.
Anyway, bottom line. I don't believe that America won't elect a woman. I firmly believe that if AOC actually ran on the platforms she actually cares about that she would walk all over the competition. I believe our last two women candidates were wrong place, wrong time, wrong situation and that this idea is the wrong conclusion to take from the outcomes.
I think AOC could be the next Obama. And by that I don't mean policy but popularity.
People got excited about someone not afraid to rock the boat.
People liked his charisma. AOC has charisma too though she does need to up her game on that.
She should look to mamdani for some tips.
Humor is a good way to get people to like you. Yes it's shallow but most voters are swayed by these things.
I think with the right advertising and PR team she can get people hopeful again. Exited for her.
Being strong against wars. No funding Israel. And universal healthcare. Lowering rent. Lower grocery cost. And anti pedo. Promise to investigate Epstein files properly.
These things will win the people's vote.
No pandering to specific groups. But to the masses.
I think you're right, but not necessarily in the ways you listed. The main thing I think about Obama is how far short he fell from his promises and his potential. Brilliant at sales, but generally mediocre at delivery. He did become more decisive towards the end of his second term, but it still wasn't enough. I could see the same happening to AOC if she gives too much of an ear to the centrists in the Democratic Party.
As another reference point: by all accounts, Biden as VP was even more risk-averse than Obama. And that was true during his presidency as well. But Biden never promised change. The implied offer from him was, at best, competently managed decline.
I think Harris is closer to Biden in this way. She'll always be corporate-friendly, and she'll never stop backing Israel, no matter what its crimes may be. Anyone as confrontation-averse as she is is going to be nothing but another disappointment.
Hillary is an intelligent woman with considerable experience, but with a record of piss-poor political choices. And yeah, cosying up to Kissinger and Cheney were among the worst of those. Her botched health-care reform efforts when Bill was president also showed her to be a formulator of overly complex policies, and an inept negotiator who's servile to big corporations.
Add to that her arrogant tone, sense of entitlement and general unlikeability (though it's reported that she's not like that in small groups) and you have a person who should never have been a candidate for high office.
And in spite of all you mentioned, Clinton still won the national popular vote. The people have already voted for a woman to be president.
I promise you the DNC will not allow AOC to win especially if she runs on a progressive ticket. They will shut her out she like they did Sanders.