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Personally, I think the registered republican kid just had the foresight to think "hey, won't this bankrupt moron who was friends with Epstein ruin any chance of small government Republicans ever having control again?" Like, it makes perfect sense to want to kill Trump, it doesn't need to be a conspiracy.
Yeah, I'm with you on that (like, if it were a fake attempt, wouldn't you want the shooter to not be a Republican?), but there are enough weird things around the shooting that it should give anyone pause.
The big one that I haven't seen a compelling answer for is how someone managed to get on a roof within comfortable plinking distance of a former president running for reelection and then fire multiple shots before getting dusted. "Incompetence" is the only answer we've been given, so I'm not surprised that conspiracy theorists are flocking to this.
Not to mention, the skill needed to wing his ear (or hit the glass that winged his ear) at that distance without wanting to kill him in the process, it would probably be beyond the capability of a marksman this young.
I honestly doubt there are more than a handful of marksmen alive who could reliably make that shot consistently enough that Trump would trust his life to them. There's no fucking way that bloody ear came from a bullet, nevermind the collateral trauma his head would have experienced if it had. The scenario I've heard that seems most plausible is that his ear scraped against an SS agent's holster as they were getting him out of the way.
Doing a shot like that reliably would be beyond the capability of any marksman.
There are, perhaps, some out there who could do it most of the time, but I don't think there's a single one ever who could count on it as a 100% thing.
Do we have numbers? Like distance etc. I just want to see if I could make it 90%
Squibs
He needed to be close but not too close. That was his failure - damn near took him out on accident.
There are millions upon millions of people in America, I have literally been in this position (well I was in my apartment) although I was a resident, it's not like they conducted a door to door sweep. Maybe if I reached my literal sniper rifle a secret service guy would've shot me, I highly doubt it though. Trump is dumb enough to go to random places like a lawn care service thinking it's a restaurant, and people let him. Tbh I haven't really looked into the issue because I don't care, but there's states where 50%+ people own guns and you don't think there's one guy mad enough to shoot him?
I had heard it was due to a communication breakdown between the local authorities and Secret Service. It's a stunning lapse but not impossible, presidents have been assassinated and attacked before.
Actually, I think it could be something more sinister.
IF his identity was real and he actually existed and he was up there with a gun, I don't think he ever had any intention of doing what the claim says he was trying to do. On the other hand, I wouldn't put it past the reasoning of right-wingers to either stage the whole thing, or for a lone right-wing kid to intentionally go there and aim for the person behind Trump, with the intention of making it look like what it's been sold as.
The kid could have thought "If I just do this, Trump will win, I guarantee it," and he could have been expecting that he (the shooter) wouldn't be making it out, but would have glory in assuring that Trump was elected.
I don't know exactly what happened in this situation, but I do know that ears don't heal in the way Trump's ear looks.
I could completely believe that explanation. MAGA is that unhinged, that they would sacrifice their life and kill others so that their cult leader god would ascend the throne and bring about the end of days.
Personally, I think the kid was blackmailed into it, by someone who loved to see the carnage after the Emperor dies (and takes the reins afterwards). Far fetched? Maybe, but with the Epstein files very little is far fetched, alas.
That begs the question, though -- why hasn't the person behind it tried again since then?
Someone with the motivation and the resources to do this once could try it again.
Hire loyal braindead cultist. Tell him he needs to be on roof and kill person behind Trump that is actually an evil liberal lizard creature from hollow flat earth.
Have Trump be scared and squirt blood.
Have secret service kill idiot so idiot can't be interrogated.
...
Profit
Forget to do any real homework and fuck up hiding that kid is indoctrinated cultist.
Profit anyway.
And have literally everyone involved in planning and organizing, and everyone who received suspicious orders, keep silent? Or, you know, that other thing I said which doesn't require tens of people keeping secrets.