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Electric Vehicles

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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.


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Electric cars have crossed lifetime cost parity with petrol vehicles across much of Europe. In the used-car market they now have the lowest total cost of ownership.

Newer models even match petrol cars in estimated lifespan, that's something early EVs could not claim.

This study shows that any new electric vehicle sold today will bring financial benefits to its second and third owner. New electric cars registered now will deliver between €262 and €849/year savings for their future second and third owners compared to an equivalent petrol car.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I don't think you can truly love ICE engines and the engineering that makes them work without realizing that an Electric Vehicle will always win as an everyday beater engine. Hands down. No contest.

ICE engines are cool because of how complex they had to become in order to become even as remotely as reliable as Electric Engines are fundmanetally. Like a Mechanical Clock vs a much more mechanically simple Digital Clock.

The only reason we are even having this discussion in 2026 and it things haven't flattened in favor of Electric Vehicles long ago was batteries used to suck. It is that simple.

[–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ICE engines are cool because of how complex they had to become in order to become even as remotely as reliable as Electric Engines are fundmanetally.

I remember in the 90's when a lot of carmakers were developing variable valve timing where the valve timing would adjust based on RPM, using the different parts of the camshaft for each cylinder's timing, so that it could maximize performance/efficiency for a wider range of RPMs without trying a one size fits all approach for the whole range. And each carmaker used a slightly different approach, trying to do something to squeeze out just a little bit more performance out of the same size engine.

Or consider the nature of the transmissions, and the rise of the automatic transmission, which allowed carmakers to start going into 6-10 gears (or the continuously variable transmission) because shifting gears could be abstracted away from the driver's perspective.

The history of a lot of the other engineered functions (getting power from the engine to 2 or 4 of the wheels while allowing different rotational rates, getting fuel into the cylinder, cooling and lubricating the engine, getting the fuel/air mixture right, etc.) shows that it's so many different things to worry about just to make the car go, reliably and safely.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

In contrast, this is a complete electric motor, it was created for demonstration purposes but it is still fundamentally the same technology as an electric motor in an electric car.

Although they were used only for teaching, in 1828 Jedlik demonstrated the first device to contain the three main components of practical DC motors: the stator, rotor and commutator. The device employed no permanent magnets, as the magnetic fields of both the stationary and revolving components were produced solely by the currents flowing through their windings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_motor

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, ICE engines are an absolute marvel of engineering, whilst reliable electric motors are really simple to build

[–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

That's true, although a fuel tank is also really simple to build while a rechargeable battery and related charging controllers/equipment get pretty complicated to manufacture. Some of the complexity gets pushed elsewhere.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Batteties still suck. Just a bit less.

The best electric vehicles are grid tied. We've had them for generations.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If those motherfuckers try to reinvent trains again I'm gonna lose my shit.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

It's cheaper to install a hanging electrical wire above a road, close of 4 lanes, and run a bus than to install train tracks.

This is very common in poorer countries. Maybe not as nice as trains, but it's 90% as good and doesn't need petrol.

[–] SnachBarr@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Internal combustion engine engines?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SnachBarr@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Just making sure I understood understood.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

But what about the vroom vroom noises?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Some EVs add them on the speakers inside to please that crowd lol.

[–] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

BMW even partnered with acclaimed composer Hans Zimmer to make custom sounds on certain of their more expensive EVs.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 days ago

That's where you know that they're dumb: people don't want lane assist or touchscreen air control, but to be able to have Lambo noises!