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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Given how pivotal it was to his campaign, I think it's worth considering how such a thing could be pulled off if it was planned:

People that want to tell stories to drive history need the right characters. Modern information technology makes that easier than ever.

Find a kid with firearm access who's into something embarrassing online. Preferably someone who wouldn't shoot the president, so a supporter. Tell him you know what he does in secret and you'll tell everyone, including police, if they don't co-operate.

Tell them to go to the chosen firing position and to shoot into the crowd behind the candidate. Tell them you'll provide protection and a getaway. Tell them there will be a magazine loaded with blanks for them to use at the firing position (they're live rounds).

When the shots are fired, secret service ties off the loose end without any interaction from the planners, and the kid never even has a name for who put him up to it.

[–] Srh@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Or tell a crazy person you think there'll be someone who is going to try to assinate the president and no one believes you on a forum. Drip feed it so you get him to go exactly where you want. .

[–] citizensongbird@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For your consideration: It's somewhat well known the reason Trump eats so much fast food hamburger is because he has a fear of being assassinated by poison (due to a lifetime of screwing people over and socializing with the wrong sort). Do you really think that kind of paranoia would agree to allow a mentally unstable kid with a rifle anywhere near him? That doesn't make sense to me.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It makes sense to me if he trusts the people planning. It's possible the bullet that killed the person in the crowd didn't come from the kid, that the kid did actually fire blanks for the narrative while the shooter was someone more skilled and trusted by the campaign. Just spit balling.

Keep in mind, it was either winning or jail for Trump, and this really did turn things around for his run, so there were likely risks he was willing to take, especially if the people planning assured him there'd be no real risk to him.

[–] abs_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"if he trusts the people planning" LOL nah.

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2017-10-20/president-trump-thinks-hes-the-smartest-person-in-the-room

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/25/trump-staff-incompetent-sycophants

You are ascribing a level of logistical forethought to his team that just, isn't possible. What is consistent with his every action, is that a media obsessed opportunist looked at the "man, woman, and camera" and decided to strike a pose from Breakfast Club or whatever thing he last remembered. Biff Tannen, Home Alone, The Apprentice, yadda yadda.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You think he won through incompetence? Interesting take.

The machine that got him elected was not incompetent. Roger Stone, for example, is a helluva schemer and has been in the game a loooooong time.

[–] abs_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not much for introspection, but when you put it like that ... yes actually.

I will tell you that I grew up a bit conservative and one of the things that "The American media apparatus and conservative think tanks and their unholy amounts of billionaire funding Koch et al." did was build up the idea of politics as a sleazeball game to disenfranchise people. I still believe it a bit. Biff had by and large built up a cult following based in no small part that he was at one point an outsider and "tells it like it is", unapologetically petty, stupid, but also affable and a joker, racist and greedy.

He (was?), genuinely bonafide stupid and watches TV all day and enough people thought that that was their best reflection. "Authentic" but also... really bleak.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Cambridge Analytica etc was incredibly sophisticated and right-wing think tanks have done far more to shape people's habits and opinions than you seem to realize.

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

reminds me of that one Black Mirror episode

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I wish it was s01e01.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Definitely came to mind while thinking about this. Seems entirely plausible to me. Trump's campaign had the resources, considering his connections to people like Erik Prince and the devil knows who else. An extremely simple and hard to trace operation once they've honey-potted the "right person".

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We should learn more about him for those exact reasons.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Agreed. Kid "tries to assassinate" the now president and we still know so little about him.

[–] citizensongbird@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The reason is because he was rightwing, same as the kid who took out Charlie Kirk. It destroys the narrative that liberals are violent when everyone who takes shots at your leadership are from the home team. If it was true, we'd know everything about these people. But it's not, so the info gets suppressed instead.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Sigh. Exhale. Look down. “Yeah, true Dat.”

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

That's certainly a plausible reason, and at least part of the story.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Agree with this scenario, with the exception that there's no need to give him live rounds, you can have someone else do that when there's a "response".

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is there any evidence to indicate the shooter was blackmailed?

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Of course not. Why would there be? If there was that would be the story instead of a hypothesis.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then why do you believe that's what happened?

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe it's a plausible alternative explanation.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

So purely baseless speculation with no ulterior motive, sure. You're trying to insinuate conspiracy while maintaining plausible deniability.

Your "plausible alternative explanation" isn't much different then saying the assassination attempt was conducted by space aliens. We can say all kinds of things if we disregard the need for evidence.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Indeed patsies real and fake certainly aren't a new concept. JFK and the Unspeakable, and sepately Point of Impact were well written and entirely plausible.