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[–] Lemmee@sh.itjust.works 44 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

You can tell it’s an IT guy’s home assistant if there’s no hardware that requires someone else’s cloud.

My home automation philosophy is that everything in the house should work with or without internet. It’s going well so far.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago

And an electronics guy's smart home if there is no wireless at all and all KNX and Ethernet wired lol.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'll add that things should also fail gracefully. If something breaks, they should all revert back to working like the dumb equivalent. Dumb switches, dumb thermostat, etc.

[–] Lemmee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 53 minutes ago

For sure. That one is a bit harder to get right, but is good to keep testing and striving for.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

This is the Way.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Good recommendation for light bulbs?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Zigbee bulbs, third reality and sengeled (sp?) are most of what I have attached to my home assistant. Stay away from the WiFi shit tho

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Don't do the lightbulbs (unless you rent). Do the power to the sockets.

Smart lightbulbs are a fucking rort

[–] BasicallyHedgehog@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

One benefit of smart lightbulbs is being able to control the colour temperature

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Which is great if you do that on the reg

[–] Lemmee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 51 minutes ago

There’s a great automation integration in home assistant that uses the suns position and time of day to automagically set the color temp throughout the day. It’s super nice to have the color temp get warmer as the sun sets.

[–] Von_Broheim@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

I use that feature every day and in multiple rooms.

[–] Lemmee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Like the other user mentioned: depends on your setup.

I have recessed lighting throughout my house, so swapping to bulbs for all of them would have been an expensive pain. So I opted for smart switches. I got innovelli reds, because they were the best there was at the time. You can get them with any protocol you want (zigbee/zwave/wifi)

With a smart switch, you can control lots of lights with only one device. Originally I just added Shelly relays behind each switch, but I wanted the dimming capability of the innoveli.

If you do still want bulbs, nothing beats hue. But they are by far the most expensive.

[–] 123@programming.dev 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

As an alternative, we have found bulbs that can run tasmota with the MQTT integration to be perhaps the most reliable part of our smart home (as long as the hardware already had a descent CRI). I've heard good things about ESP home too, but we have not tried it.

If someone has some light bulbs that are laggy (due to cloud integrations) or a pain to use due to software, its worth checking out of tasmota or esp home can be installed on them to locally pair with something like home assistant. It turned a regretful purchase into a nice addition.

With that said, we don't buy connected devices any longer without checking internet and cloud requirements first.

[–] Lemmee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 57 minutes ago

Tasmota is awesome. I flashed all my early Shelly devices with it. But now the native Shelly firmware is amazing, and it allows you to turn on local mqtt only. So I’ve stopped using Tasmota for everything besides the few devices flashed early and behind my wall switches. (I’m too lazy to pull them out)

Is it hard to flash bulbs with Tasmota? Don’t you usually need access to the pins? Or have an OTA option for updating the firmware?

[–] LowlandSavage@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

I love my lutron Caseta gear. Integrates with home assistant and reverts to dumb. Expensive ass dimmer though, and they run on a proprietary hub.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It depends on the rest of your setup, but I recommend going with zigbee or matter/thread for the connectivity. I definitely wouldn't put any "smart" devices on my general purpose wifi. That stuff is never going to be secure. Also, consider if smart switches would work for you instead. That way you don't have to pay the premium when a bulb burns out.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah I'm stuck between those two options however it's for much later down the road in my case. House needs a renovation but finances don't allow just yet.

I have a mix of TP Link wifi globes, IKEA ZigBee and Hue Zigbee throughout the house. Zigbee are controlled by a SLZB 06 and ZHA / MQTT. By far the Hue are the best I've tested and have been in service for around 10 years.

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is why I'm conflicted about getting online weather information.

[–] Lemmee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 54 minutes ago

Pretty hard to replace weather info without internet. I don’t have any automations that rely on weather info, and I have a cheap rain gauge that a friend 3d printed for me. It uses a simple zigbee door sensor to detect rain accumulation. Pretty clever device (not my invention.)

So eventually I want to automate the watering of my garden, and I intend to use the rain sensor to help there. But honestly, it never rains in the summer here in the PNW, so my 3rd reality moisture sensors are more useful than actual weather data.