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[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Do any genuine DPRK defenders have sources or statistics to help me break my brainwashing or whatever because all I have ever seen are reasons to oppose and people saying yeah but what if that's not actually true.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Thanks for the links. I'm curious if you see North Korea as an actual positive example of state governance or socialism, or if you simply mean to point out certain specific myths?

The haircut video is an interesting demonstration of how state-run media spreads falsehoods, but overall it's really more of an indictment of America than a defense of North Korea. South Korea paying people makes sense, I never really gave defectors too much credence anyway. The interview is interesting but I wish it were longer and more in-depth.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The DPRK is a success story, they succeeded in defeating both the Japanese and US imperialists (despite the US killing 1/5 of their citizens), fought the US comprador government to a standstill (which still serves as a US military base and carries out attacks and propaganda against the DPRK), and made it through the incredibly hard period of the 90s (the arduous march) after the fall of the USSR.

Socialism can take on many forms, all of which can't be divorced from the historical context in which they arose. Other comrades can give some deep dives into the DPRK's governance system, which can show how it's far more democratic than the capitalist dictatorship in the south.

We should all admire the DPRK for standing up to the US empire, and debunk the lies told about it first and foremost. Liberals tend to think its mordor or something, when in reality its a country where ppl go to work and live regular lives like any other.

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[–] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago (66 children)

Think of it this way

Everything in you're seeing in Gaza today is what was done to North Korea once. Arguably to an even larger extent.

A society that has been subject to that level of violence and inhumanity can't be expected to be exactly like colonial countries in Europe in terms of its social norms, without even considering cultural differences.

Despite all of that, North Korea has not just managed to survive, it's maintained HDI that surpasses nearly every other under developed country. Remember that it is one of the most, if not the most diplomatically isolated and sanctioned country in the world.

Do you think a state run by tyrants and capitalism enabled fasicsts would do that?

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

For absolute beginners to learning about Korea, I like Nodutdol's US out of Korea toolkit. It gives you background on Korea, from the Joseon dynasty to Japanese colonialism to the split to today. For specifics on the DPRK I can offer some helpful resources, but without knowing what in particular you're talking about I'd just have to dump books on you, and that's not particularly effective. It's better to either follow a course like Nodutdol's, or to study specific areas of interest.

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (48 children)

if your attention span has been ruined by social media like mine is; madeline pendelton does short form videos that touches on it and she backs it up with a linktree full of sources and north korea seems to be her favorite topic. she's also on almost all of the social media platforms and you should be aware that her videos comment are mostly filled with hate from brainwashed people.

she also does a twich channel where she goes over the current news and explains the propaganda in it; i watch it everyday.

here's the most recent video of hers that i shared: https://www.tiktok.com/@madeline_pendleton/video/7610963982198770975

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