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Cars are equally loud and even more pollution, we should never have to endure more than 60db. https://www.berlin.de/umweltatlas/en/traffic-noise/noise-pollution/1993/map-description/ If we build more elevated trains, the needs for Cars is reduced and we could move the train to the ground where right now a lot of Streets/Stroads are. And those trains/trams are way quiter than cars https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003682X21003285
Current numbers vs a study from 1993.
I would also ask you to point out where I said that cars were any better... Although let's be clear, cars produce the same level of noise at speeds/RPM that are of no concern in urban areas, which is not the case for the REM as it produces that noise in urban areas.