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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The question isn't "can you", but "should you".

An engine that's always working at near it's maximum capacity will fail long before an engine that's working at a quarter of it's capacity. Most people wouldn't dream of constantly running their engine bouncing off the red line of rev limiter. The same applies to towing; if you frequently tow large, heavy loads (for instance, earth moving equipment), you want to get a vehicle that's rated for much higher tonnage than the weight you'll regularly be towing. Given that campers are usually very light weight (but only slightly more aerodynamic than a brick), you can get away with towing on in a car infrequently. You should probably not do it daily.

You may also find that it's less fuel efficient to tow a heavy load in a small-ish car than the same load in a light truck.

(BTW - I'm generally opposed to taking vacations in this way. I prefer my vacations on a motorcycle, or on foot with a backpack. I'm not currently in the kind of shape I would need to be in in order to do bicycle camping.)

Edit: I don't have a truck. It's cheaper for me to rent one on the rare occasions that I need one than it is to buy one and deal with the associated costs of owenership. That said, the Home Depot rental trucks suck, because they're solely RWD, and they have no grip on my road unless there's a literal ton of weight in the back.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody complains about big cars whilst they're towing, and if they were doing it everyday you would see them.. well.. everyday towing, but they typically are not.

Fuel efficiency that you lose whilst towing you would gain on the other 99% of your kms.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yep. There is one guy in town with a private pickup. I wonder what he is shopping for in the bakery when his F150 blocks two parking lots.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I live in a country where everyone buys used cars from western Europe and it's semi-common knowledge among car people that you should avoid Dutch cars with tow hitches (and the used car yards that bring their cars from Holland tend to have the worst reputation).

That said, if you only tow heavy loads maybe a thousand, tow thousand kilometers a year, it doesn't really matter. It's prolonged heavy towing that kills the small car.

Anyway, my midsize diesel car can tow way more than I personally am legally allowed to and I prefer throwing a tent in the trunk to towing a camper, so my car sees maybe <500 km of light-weight towing a year and under a metric ton you can barely feel the hit to fuel efficiency or performance (because diesel torque is ridiculous)

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Only very few people regularly pull caravans. I worked for one, but he a) sold caravans and b) had the car to pull them.

[–] jocanib@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

(for instance, earth moving equipment)

That's quite some reach.