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Just because they are corrupt cops above the law dosen't mean that speed cameras dosen't work. Hidden cameras that are only there to "catch" speeders are pretty stupid, but cameras with warning about their proximity work very well to slow down drivers before conflict points
If the goal is to reduce speeding, road design plays more of a factor more than cameras.
A fine means that it's a revenue grab.
That's correct, but cameras still work and are cheaper/easier to install than rebuilding the streets.
But they're not a solution to poor road planning. It's like putting a bandaid on a gaping wound.
Not every mechanism of society needs to be built around fear of punishment. In fact, i would say that none should be in and ideal society. There are numerous ways to not instill fear in people every second of every day. It even would make a healthier society if people didn't live in perpetual fear of the state.
A camera says nothing about punishment and everything about social accountability. Some people simply need a reminder or are new to an area as well.
Social accountability is a euphemism for punishment. Someone is engaging in a behavior that is discouraged and so when they do that something is done to them that they don't want to happen. In this case a camera simply automates fining people.
People who need a reminder or are new to an area especially benefit from better road design or cheaper alternatives (where I live some residential streets have concrete planters that make the road wind and force you to slow down). For a person new to an area especially, the speed camera functionally serves as an expensive toll for driving the speed the road is designed for, but one you receive in the mail a few weeks later.
Good speed reduction should make speeding look and feel reckless ro everyone, including someone who's never been there before and didn't see the speed limit. Good design is intuitive.
I don't agree that its possible to make everyone feel personally at risk when speeding.
If people want to be around other people then social accountability is required. Whether you want to call it punishment or not, we have to have ways to signal to each other what we find okay and what we don't. I dont agree with deceptive setups designed to maximize income for a city, so I do agree with most of what you are saying, I just think ultimately punishment needs to be there for some people.