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Judge ‘disturbed’ over ‘legally deficient’ treatment of Trump gala shooting suspect
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The lessons learned from MKUltra were, it doesn't fucking work.
The ever shifting goals were nebulous at best, and often just monstrous in practice, but at no time did anything ever get accomplished.
It started as an excuse to play with LSD. For something like 10 years, the entire world's supply of LSD was funneled to the CIA and specifically wherever Sidney Gottlieb wanted it. Often this was into his own body, and the bodies of unsuspecting CIA agents who "agreed" to be secretly dosed at random via their employment contracts.
Originally they thought that LSD could be a truth serum, but that's bullshit, then they thought that they could "reprogram" people into secret agents (this plan actually came about after the Manchurian Candidate came out.) That part of things got pretty horrific, they found that through the use of torture and drugs, they could completely break a person. Putting them back together proved impossible.
Eventually MKUltra turned into dosing random people in the street or in brothels, seemingly so that one particular creep could watch.
They learned that "guys are more talkative after sex when on drugs".
It was all fucking nonsense. That's how these people work, they have some harebrained idea and then throw spaghetti at the wall, trying to make it work out. When it doesn't, they wander off assuming that someone else will clean up the mess.
All of that is separate from modern social media control programs, which work via scale. But we've known that propaganda works at scale since the beginning of history. Like everything else wrong with the modern world, it's more targeted and tracked now.
You have massive state run influence machines trying to push different narratives, and it's all just noise. But yes, there are also some dangerous elements. The whole incel culture full of people both pushing dangerous versions of right-wing ideology and preying on the insecurities of young men. I can certainly say that there are people, both employed by governments and not, who make it their lives work to infiltrate various online communities to push different talking points.
But worse is Joel Fucking Kaplan.
So you're describing the declassified parts, that were not sucessfully, intentionally, destroyed, that we have access to...
As the entirety of every single project related to MKUltra.
(There were many more programs with many more codenames than just MKUltra, MKUltra is just the colloquial blanket term to refer to all of them.)
You don't think that maybe we just happen to have the nonsense parts?
You don't think that algorithms that can dial a person down to a pretty specific psychological profile... don't think that could work for more than just targeted advertising?
That it can be both of broad scale, and also highly precise?
That it could be used to target potentially exploitable, suggestible people, who will be likely so mentally ill they won't fully understand what happened, what they did, why they did it?