politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:

- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
view the rest of the comments
Europe and Ukraine should realize that Trump cannot be trusted. Europe should negotiate with Putin regarding Ukraine.
Europe knows what the situation is. There is a delicate balance happening right now.
Europe is hoping America gets its shit together in 2 years and isn't looking to prematurely burn any bridges.
The US is still ostensibly on the side of NATO and Ukraine, and can't openly turn traitorous without consequence.
The treachery could be in secret. Trump and Putin could be making secret agreements. Trump is already moving troops out of Europe. Europe has to move away from Trump.
Since the orange chancre is obviously Putin's puppet, with massive evidence already in the open to the point that we even know his KGB codename and this departing ambassador has cited that specifically as her reason for leaving, it seems clear why the US has not just quit NATO no matter how many times Trump has said he was wanted to quit NATO or was even planning to quit NATO.
The bottom line is that if the US leaves NATO, the US loses its ability to keep Ukraine out. This is extremely important to Putin, and has been all along, to the point of Putin demanding "legal guarantees" that Ukraine would never join NATO.
So instead of leaving NATO outright, Putin's stooge in the White House is doing everything he can to destabilize and weaken NATO -- and keep Ukraine forced out -- without ever actually giving up his own ability to manipulate it on Putin's ongoing behalf.
I don't think this is true. I think that Europe is trying to separate its interests from the USA as quickly as it can without causing pain for European countries or inviting retaliation from the US.
I think Europe is preparing for the worst, but hoping for it not to happen.
But as an European, I appreciate the effort being made into becoming more sovereign.
The American people elected Donald Trump twice, and before that they gave two terms to George W. Bush. If they "get their shit together in 2 years" it'll just be another brief reprieve before the next fascist.
Maybe. But the future is hard to predict, so maybe not. So no reason to burn the bridges under Trump, unless we have to.
And even if it is only temporary, Russia is threatening to invade Europe now. So even a temporary 4 years reprieve under a Democrat President would be hugely valuable.
Putin only understands force. Any negotiation will be violated just like the deal Ukraine had to give up their nukes was violated by Russia and now the US.
Possibly. This is what Europe should propose to Putin. Russia will withdraw from all land it seized from Ukraine after the 2022 invasion. NATO would be dissolved and replaced with a European alliance. Ukraine and Canada would be permitted to join but not the US. All sanctions against Russia will be lifted. Russia will not be required to pay reparations. If Putin doesn't accept the proposal, the UK and France would send troops to Ukraine.
Negociations will still need to happen in case Russia lose and have to accept to not attack Ukraine again.
Ruzzia will violate those as well. Thats what they do.
Your moronic comment failed to take into account that Trump and Putin are the same. If you negotiate with one you negotiate with the other. But that was of course your moronic intention.
But since Putin is the one doing the fighting, Europe must negotiate with Putin.