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According to Rimu Atkinson, the main developer of PieFed, all PieFed instances come with a 3000-long block list of resources that cannot be linked to. These include all sorts of right-wing outlets. There is no easy opt-out, forcing existing instances to follow the blocklist.

The flagship PieFed instance also rolled out a feature marking various other sorts of outlets - among them, resources considered AI slop and Marxist outlets. These are specific to piefed.social.

Related discussion: https://piefed.social/comment/11254679

Why YSK: Many users have hard time choosing between Lemmy, PieFed, and Kbin/Mbin. Users that prefer a more curated and politically uniform experience might prefer PieFed over the alternatives. Users that are right-wing, Marxist, or generally concerned about global censorship of the Fedi-/Threadiverse, might opt for other options instead.

Note: The post is only meant to inform users of the potentially important differences between Threadiverse platforms. Any ideologically charged discussions are better left in the respective topic.

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[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

blocking trash sites on your own instance, and providing default settings is perfectly reasonable.

[–] Caveman@piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If you can't opt out as an instance its a bit more than "default settings" imo

And my whole issue is not wanting too wide a net being labeled under "trash sites" I hate Fox News and Infowars but I also hate them being hidden from me with no way to get around that besides switching from piefed to a different service. Who is to say what the next trash site will be? Spam is one thing but I don't need a net nanny.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

who can't opt out? just use a different instance if you dont like an instances setting. no one owes you anything. or run your own and just change the setting.

[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

"Changing the setting" would involve forking the codebase, as it's hardcoded iirc

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, but basically no instance will do that, and for the vast majority of people on this planet just self hosting it is so far out of their knowledge that forking it would be inconceivable for them

Does no instance want to do it, or there are those that want to but can't?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

provide proof. highly doubt that.

[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Literally yesterday I tried hosting a piefed instance, with no intervention, it applied these exact lists, and there was no option to change it which is why I switched back to self hosted lemmy

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

so no proof got it. note other people in the thread mentioned DB records you need to clear out. fairly trivial work if your hosting systems.

[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not going to look through the code for proof for an online argument, but the reason I believe that is because there is/was code that searched for anonymous and No. in any uploaded image, and failed with a fake error message when you try to upload it

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

laugh in other words you dont know wtf you're talking about. no one is saying piefied's codebase doesnt have block functionality or that its available by default. the problem is you shits are saying its mandatory, when in reality it almost CERTAINLY isnt and then you can't even be half assed enough to ask an LLM to find the code to prove your position.

stop wasting everyone's time with your childish nonsense. and be happy someone else did your homework for you and you were entirely incorrect.

[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I literally installed it the day before yesterday, the first page of logs was applied x blocklist, applied x blocklist... Unless the pyfedi repo is unofficial?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

PEBCAC. this is a skill issue not a statement of fact. you not knowing how to operate the software is different from the software mandating things. maybe you should go find the code and understand how it works before making wild claims that are a result of your incompetence.

Fun fact: since someone did provide receipts and I did look at the code. its trivial to remove both domain blocklist and the instance block list in about 40s of work.

  1. open db terminal
  2. truncate blocklist and domain list tables.
[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay? Just because it's possible does not mean the avg instance will bother, much less avg person

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

the average person isnt running their own software stack. your complaint was its hard coded. it isnt. your complaint was that it couldnt be changed. it can. you were simply wrong on all counts and are now moving the goal post to make yourself feel better.

[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, but the only reason for there to be default blocks with no env var to disable, no command flag to disable, and no setting to disable is to want them to be applied to every instance

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

or 99% of the people running instances will want those defaults and its not worth the effort to deal with people like you to bother making it brain dead to disable.

trust me adding friction to a codebase is the a easy way to not have to deal with you.

for example imagine having ti field nonsense feature requests from people who cant even be assed to do basic research on how to remove the blocking configuration. that'd be infuriating.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just make a different account on a different instance, nothing is stopping you.

[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What? You mean lemmy? I have one. If you mean a different piefed instance, that's what I was saying, you'd need to fork the pyfedi repo to remove the list, it's on every instrnce of piefed

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Make your own and opt out or use lemmy since you're complaining specifically about the features that differentiate piefed. Like this is a seriously dumb complaint. Like why would you want active disinformation sources? What benefit does that provide to discourse? Or do you just want disinformation to be disseminated? It's not a matter of fuckin opinion, these sites propagate actual fake news and that's their primary purpose. Fox news literally argued in court they're purely entertainment, like the onion.

[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fox news literally argued in court they're purely entertainment, like the onion.

Wait, they did? Wow, accuracy!

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Their position is that no reasonable person would believe their reporting as authentic or truthful.

[–] Caveman@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The original post we are commenting on stated instances could not opt out. Or at least I thought it did, I don't know how to check edit history. I'm now aware thats untrue.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

and provided zero proof of this fact. feel free to provide that proof. I'm too lazy to go research the codebase but i highly doubt they hard coded it.