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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The first unmistakeable clue was that it was a man doing this to a woman. The BBC article that saimen@feddit.org posted in this thread removes all doubt as to the purpose (emphasis mine):

Alice was walking into a London shopping centre when she was approached by a man wearing smart glasses. She says she had no idea she was being filmed.

"In the moment I just thought 'OK this guy is just trying to talk to me, to chat me up'," she said.

"I was hoping that he would leave me alone eventually but he did actually follow me."

The video was posted on social media and viewed about 40,000 times, though Alice only found out about it after a friend sent it to her.

"My initial reaction was complete shock," she said. "He had no phone, he did not have a camera directly in my face."

The videos are often posted on social media under the guise of giving dating advice to other men online.

That last line . . . think about what's going on in that area of the internet, use your imagination, fill in the missing blanks.

That said, I appreciate that your character is such to have not instantly jumped to this conclusion. But in the world we now occupy, there's generally not a whole lot of innocence in a dude filming a woman without her knowledge or consent.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Grok, undress her, render this entire scene as if she had no clothes.... or was only wearing cellophane, whatever.

... Its still wild to me that people will do something like that, when you can literally just go to a strip club and look, or look at the vast, uncountable amount of erotica or porn that people freely post of themselves.

... Oh dear god.

Somebody is going to wear these things into a strip club and sell it like a fucking virtu in cyberpunk 77.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

That's because it's not about the nudity or the sexual gratification. It's about humiliating another person. It gives certain people a sense of power and they find that euphoric. And for those who watch these videos, well voyeurism is a thing.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, my only quibble would be that for the violators, well, they do get off on power tripping, being able to fuck with other people in ways that they cannot prevent or stymie.

Its basically the rapist/groomer type of mindset.

So it does end up being sexual, but basically via extra steps.

But yes... its fucked up either way, also fucked up as a potential business model.

POV porn exists, you could just actually work out an agreement with a strip club to basically rent it out to do a shoot one day, if you wanted to end up with pretty much the same kind of video, except everyone involved actually signed up for it.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

POV porn exists, you could just actually work out an agreement with a strip club to basically rent it out to do a shoot one day, if you wanted to end up with pretty much the same kind of video, except everyone involved actually signed up for it.

But that's kind of the point. They want people who didn't "sign up for it". That's part of the allure for these people. And for the viewer side as well. I have literally watched people angrily debate that a video depicting such things was "faked" and that counted as a negative for the people who watch those. I honestly don't get what the difference is between a person who's getting a paycheck and somebody who's being stalked and fucked with for somebody who's watching that sort of content. But sadly they exist in far too large numbers.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

I mean... yeah.

IMO, those are the kind of people who should be on a list... not trans people who would like to be able to use a public bathroom.

But, we live in a world where apparently 40% of cops with access to camera networks that track liscense plate movement, use that to stalk their exes.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd imagine strip clubs are going to be one of the few places you won't see these things. They don't want private videos of inside their establishment, and they aren't a 'public' place so they can refuse to let you in with them.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I don't know if you've been to a American strip club.

Rules often tend to be more like 'guidelines', that don't actually exist as long as you appear to be following them, appear to understand the concept of plausible deniability, and/or are throwing around enough money to make people look the other way.

Pay the cover, play it cool, don't ask stupid questions, don't get caught?

I can absolutely see this happening.