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Lemmy is a lot weirder of a place when you start to realize instances are like virtual nation-states and the admin teams are ALL despotic auth-rulers with the temperaments of toddlers.
I feel like this is an overly extreme take. Coming off of being on reddit for years I am astounded on a day to day with just how much I can actually get away with saying on Lemmy and expressing myself here. I find myself continuously reflecting on the fact that even in my most liberal (in the literary sense) takes with others, I'm still holding back, sugarcoating, or discounting things as "worth saying" at least 30% of the time. I don't know what's going on over on piefed, but Lemmy as a whole has been the opposite of authoritarian censorship for me. I've never felt more outspoken in an online presence.
the astronaut meme but its 'wait that is how almost everything ever has worked this whole time?'
lemmy just fundamentally attempts to accept that that is basically how people work, when you boil things down and remove the rationalizations, and tries to provide mechanisms to manage this somewhat less insanely.
For real. I can't even keep up with what db0's weird ass mod stances are. I just wanna look at memes and chat with people
db0 seems fixated on complex governance arrangements. We get it. You're an anarchist. Amazing.
I'm not even an anarchist, I just wanted a somewhat populated instance with less down time than world. The political ideation of the more hardcore members of db0 certainly seems like a pipedream more than a realistic plan for government (or lack thereof). But hey, I'll take hate for consolidated political power over bootlicking any day.
anarcho-pragmatism, lol
this shit seems to suck at least a little bit less than most other shit, therfore, join the anarchist instance
unironically i love this
I agree, but thats not really what im getting at.
Theres this Fediverse Anarchist Flotilla which is supposed to be like an alliance of instances with shared rules and commitments and whatever. It just seems completely unnecessary to me.
Its like... 5 people catch up every week to drink beer and watch a movie. Its great and everyone enjoys it. Then one guy says you need a chairperson, and rules, and a secret handshake, and a versioning system for the rules, and a documented arrangement with some other guys who do the same thing at someone else's house, and your own crypto coin for donations, and all the things.
Its all unnecessary.
Its an elective (voluntary) federation.
Within a framework designed for and around federating.
So analagously, consider maybe a set of countries that agree to a mutual trade agreement.
Instead of a multiplicity of bilateral negotiations, you have a collective group mechanism for dispute settlement, or maybe steering and implementing a new or revised regional strategy.
Or, to drop the analogy down to the more mundane and practical:
Instead of you and 5 of your friends all texting each other seperately, to figure out the carpool schedule for next week... you all just have a group chat for this.
This can seem unnecessary when scales are small.
Then maybe you happen to scale up, and then you find that the old way of doing things is actually very chaotic and confusing, and has a whole bunch of serious flaws.
Then you look back at the goobers that did all that seemingly at the time pointless extra work, and call that foresight.
So just like the big ones minus the capitalistic machine...
Our admins are lovely but severely overworked. Most admin teams I’ve interacted with are kind but overladen. Some are definitely emotionally stunted but I definitely wouldn’t establish that as a rule
People fail to understand that exactly this is the concept of a federation. You only agree on a few things, in this case the software, everything else, however, is fully individual.
Federation is not the solution here. The only solution that would work is peer to peer - no hosts at all, pure anarchy.
Is there such a place?
I suspect I wouldn't like it but I'd like to see it in action
There is. It's filled to the brim with nazis, cryptobros and spam
Assuming it is actually usable