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You're not a parent, obviously.
Maybe some kids can read it. Or maybe, brainrot world of free information shows that, actually, kids aren't good at consuming adult material because they lack the context and understanding of consequences. Kids don't think long term, they don't comprehend abuse and trauma right. Letting kids read smut and bascially normalizing its content is going to leave them with a severely fucked up sense of sex and relationships because they have nothing else to base it on.
Is sex in real life like it is in porn? No. And if you watched a lot of fucked up porn and then just tried to do that shit like you thought "thats how sex is, right?" you're going to have a bad time. And that's neverminding that A LOT of adult fantasy is "Consensual Non-Consent" (or adjacent, stalkery stuff). So that's going to be kids baseline for how to behave in a relationship. What else would they have to compare it to? Is that a good idea? Do you think that it's smart to normalize to a bunch of teen boys that it's normal to just force yourself on women, because actually, just like in the books, that's what they really want and like.....
That's why kids don't need to be reading adult smut, they don't have the understanding to know that it's FANTASY.
I cannot adequately express my disdain for your response
"Youre not a parent, obviously"
Gooooo fuck yourself, buddy.
I want you to hear this loud and clear. Every decent parent read you write that and thought: "Holy shit, this person's poor children have this twat as a role model..."
I don't give a fuck what you think. Gooooo fuck yourself right back.
Your child (that you don't have) is not my child. And my child's problems are not the same as every other childs. That's how things work.
That you think, somehow, your parenting approach should be universal, or widely adopted, without considering that, i dunno, every child's needs are different... shows you don't know shit about parenting or kids. You seem to think that children are a monolith, that they all behave and respond the same way to things, and can all be trusted to do the same thing with the same materials.
That's not how kids are. Some kids have diagnosed, alarming and problematic issues with mental health and violence. And maybe, letting them just consume material unsupervised and without and controls is not in their best interest, or the interests and safety of other around them. But you dont seem to get that. You want to live in this world where every kid is perfect, and totally reasonable, mature, healthy and understanding of morality. If you're one of the lucky ones to have a kid like this, maybe you'd have a different view on just letting them consume whatever material they want.
Kids go on a shooting spree and everyone goes "why didn't the parents do anything????".... "how did this kid get access to all this violent material???" And here I am, advocating that maybe parents should parent, and not let their kids just do whatever they want, get invovled with whatever they want.... Maybe parents, who know their kids, should have some say in exactly what kinds of materials their kid has access too.
and ya'lll are like "UMMMM actually, trying to restrict any kid is evil and bad, and you should let them do whatever they want". Jesusfuck.
I am not reading that much drivel from a bad parent.
the fuck off? You've already proven you don't give a fuck about kids anyways.
"then fuck off" he said, continuing the exchange.
Stop pretending you're a good parent, your emotional immaturity is apparent in this thread.
Your poor fucking kids.
Imagine being the child of a parent who desperately needs the last word. Misery.
yup, I'm the real problem here. Advocating that kids aren't given liberty to freely consume explicitly sexual material. That some topics should be left to parents to decide. What a monster.
Man, I love that Lemmy has a “label” function
I feel so fucking sorry for your kids if you actually have any. Hopefully they have a decent amount of friends with parents who aren't pearl-clutching lunatics so they can get some exposure to functional adult behavior, holy shit
okay.
glad you, who doesn't know anything about my kid, has such strong opinions on what they're capable of handling. You, who has no idea what they've been through or experienced, yet you seem to think YOU know what's best for them.
Yea... cool.
Your kid is your kid. Every library in the fucking world doesn't need to cater to your kid's needs. "Parent" is a verb, but you only get to do it to your own children.
they're not catering to my kid.... that's not what I said either. It's a school public library, it caters to the public, kids specifically. And the public decides what appropriate for kids by consensus. I don't know how much more bad faith you can read that as.....
And I didn't say every library in the world.... I've said multiple times that regular libraries can and should have that content and that parents can decide individually if they're comfortable with letting their kids consume it. No issues with that, let parents, parent. But a SCHOOL library, which is tailored to children, should have material that the public feels is appropriate for children. Simple as.
Parent here, you sound completely unhinged. I would rather my school's library have an entire section of pokemon bdsm slashporn than the level of censorship that's currently happening.
Go read some Phyllis Schafly op eds and leave the rest of us alone
you want to have a school library stocked full of furry porn..... but you think I'm unhinged......
If they can tell that wizards and elves are fantasy, they could see how porn is a fantasy, too. Try talking to your kids about it instead of letting their imagination run wild.
Actually I need to circle back around to how fucking dumb this comment is.
Except kids aren't going to someday encounter wizards and elves and magic shit in real life. That won't happen to them, ever, it's actual fantasy, not real.
They will (probably) someday get involved sexually with someone.
And if their formative experience and education on the matter heavily revolves around "fantasy" scenarios (ala porn/smut), and not, "the real world" then they're going to have a very fucked idea what that means. Because kids will have no other context or experience by which to judge and examine the material. From their perspective, that's just how sexual relations work, or could work or should. So you're setting up kids with these massively unrealistic and sometimes violent and dangerous expectations of sex.
They won't encounter a hobbit ever, not matter how many times they read LOTR. But they will encounter a woman, who will say "no" and it won't mean "secretly she wants it"
Do you have kids?
I'm a step-father.
Cool, then you get to fuck up your kids however you want.
What is so hard to understand about this concept?
You want to just hand your kids porn, do that, that's your right. I don't give a fuck. But saying schools should give kids porn, objective pornographic material, is NOT your right. You're insane if you that's your view. Detached from the real world where you think that every kid can handle any content of material without issue.
That seems like an argument for only letting them see good porn and good stories about violence and trauma and stuff not none owning the fasch worth it anyway and I don't think the exclusion mechanism is worth sorry I don't really care about your middle ground bullshit owning the fasch never surrender an inch even if it isn't one you want let them fight it exhaust themselves on it
No, the argument is, YOU can show YOUR CHILD this socalled "good porn", that's your kid, you're free to fuck them up however you want. But maybe, we don't all want to have fucked up kids just because you don't want to teach yours. Mabye, different people have different views. I know, crazy, it's like we're not all like you.
No you say the argument is that they'll be shown unrealistic shit and not know its unrealistic and hurt themselves ir others and that's a very real concern why do you think it only applies to porn why is media depicting sexuality dangerous but media depicting violence and politics and life ways not what the hell is wrong with you also it owns the fasch to include it and I think upsetting them and making them whine about that means they won't be doing guaranteed harm to kids so its at worst literary chemotherapy and literary chemotherapy is the coolest thing I've said in like a year so I'm down for it besides your children are people they don't fucking belong to you they aren't property they're people
don't have kids.
Its that lat part that made you so sure isn't it