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US House Unveiled Plan to Charge $130 [Yearly] Fee for Electric Vehicles (www.bloomberg.com)

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This is more than the average fossil car owner pays in gas taxes, and really bad policy during a world fuel shortage.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 85 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is absolutely, completely pants-on-head idiotic.

So, par for the course for Congress.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

Not idiotic. Malicious. They know exactly what they're doing on this.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Committee leaders said in a statement the levy was needed to ensure all highway users “pay their share” as part of an effort to supplant the gas tax to help pay for transportation projects.

I would be ok with this, as $130-$150 a year is not astronomical and hypothetically would be going towards the public good, but with this administration, I don't think they will be putting any money into actually improving life for the general public.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it were pitched as an excise tax for all motor vehicle owners: sure.

This is specifically targeted on EVs. It’s an attempt to make EVs slightly less appetizing to the general public. Remember who is in charge of the house at the moment.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I believe that it was def a handout to gas and auto companies, but there is not currently a way that EVs are contributing to the public roads in the same way as gas taxes, right?

Edit: Looks like some states do have an annual fee for EVs already.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most states I know of have an EV tax already

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It looks like there is a charging tax in very few states, but it has problems.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/electric-vehicle-ev-taxes/

Another response by states to backfill reductions in gas tax collections has been to implement a tax on EV charging stations. States like Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, and Oklahoma impose a tax per kilowatt-hour distributed by charging stations. While this added user fee may help equalize treatment between combustion engines and EVs, because many users charge their EVs at home, these taxes can fail to fully account for EV road use.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The registration fees in your link are all annual registrations, not one-time events, which is in line with what I've experienced and heard about. In my state it's roughly equivalent to driving 15k miles/year in a 30 mpg average gas vehicle or 10k miles/year in a 20 mpg vehicle.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, my bad. Thanks!

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

looks like they could try a nationwide tax on all people who EVs somehow.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Par for a paid Congress. It wasn't like this and never was directly corrupt as the right has become.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

it’s been like this forever. just varying levels of “depth” of course, but yeah… congress has been purchasable since say 1776 or so.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

UK is doing the same thing. Well over US$200/yr. Flat fee.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you talking about Vehicle Excise Duty? All cars pay that although at various rates, the more CO2/km attracts higher rates, going far above what the EVs pay.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

Yes, VED...how much C02/km does an EV make?