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[–] dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Oregon has a pay-per-mile system that would be more fair, IMO. Not sure if they still have it but at one point, they let you choose between having a tracker or just self-reporting your mileage. Makes sense if you use the road less, you should pay less and vice-versa.

Flat tax just spreads the estimated additional wear and cost around to everyone, like going out to dinner with a group and splitting the bill evenly vs just paying for what you ordered. I’d rather just pay for what I ordered.

[–] Casterial@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

14,500 miles driven here mostly for work and family. Even if it was 5 cents a mile that'd be $700+ in taxes a year just to operate a vehicle. What's really funny is how dependent our American cities are on cars, you're stuck needing one, but eventually you won't afford one due to taxes.

[–] dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You’re right, this is why what we really need to do is tax the rich and make them pay their fair share while also moving off a car-dependent infrastructure.

[–] bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

More fair would be to pay for road wear and tear. Bigger cars do more damage to roads, and semis do exponentially more. Drop the gas tax and charge per mile scaled to the weight of your half loaded vehicle.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

As much of a pain in the ass, that would be to implement, I agree. I do believe that vehicle weight has some contributing factors.

Plus, moving it to the odometer system would remove the necessity of having a privatized company manage it(hence lowering complexity and cost from that company) and it would then be run by a government service

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

You should see the damage farm equipment causes.

I pay my EV fee ($175 every year) even tho I barely drive, which is why I got an EV (old car needed to be replaced anyway). In the last year prior to getting an EV, I filled up my 10-gallon tank maybe four times. At 18 cents per gallon I probably paid $8 toward road repair via gas taxes, so I’m paying way way way more now. Farm equipment doesn't pay shit to fix the copious damages they cause going between their fields, since most of their gas use isn't on the roads and many large farms have their own fuel pumps and buy bulk.

I like your proposal, but I’d add a HUGE flat fee to large farm equipment, or just entirely ban it from paved roads, where it very specifically is not meant to be.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

“fair” is often ascribed to pay as you go (and flat taxes) flat taxes, but they are both biased toward working people. Add road maintenance budget to progressive income tax and make rich people pay a bigger share. they can afford it.

[–] dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Oh agreed I’m all for making the rich pay their fair share. If they did maybe this wouldn’t even be a topic worth much discussion