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It's not social media itself, it's social media companies tolerating the intolerant.
Back in the day nazis recruited at punk shows, so when they showed up you punched them in the face and they left. Fucking easiest 2 minute conflict resolution ever and it kept them check for decades while letting teenage punks have a valid target for their rage.
Then daytime TV (Springer, Ricky lake, that shit) started bringing them on, and letting them get their message out, and they capitalized on that with early webpages and forums. Creating the same recruitment pipeline they use today, because people can't physically punch them in the face online.
The mods/admins have to do that with bans.
When they don't, it's for the same reason as Springer. They want the conflict because conflict attracts eyeballs. But all it does is help nazis recruit.
There can't be any tolerance of the intolerant.
Literally the one that excelled at the online pivot.
He's basically the old white guy from American History X, except because our timeline is extra crazy, he got involved with Chinese WoW gold farms and realized online games was even easier to recruit than webpages.
Like, he's absolutely a piece of shit, but decades ago before the alcohol turned his brain completely to mush, he put in the first steps to getting us here. Not just politically but socially/culturally.
He was extremely effective, but he wouldn't have been if he was forced to do all that shit in person where he could be punched in the face.
Steve Bannon hanging out with 10 year olds on a playground sets off alarm bells, but do it from behind a WoW avatar and it doesn't stand out.
Again tho, it's not the online games, its not the in person DnD, not the punk shows, not skateparks, not social media...
Those are all just places, and if Nazis are tolerate in any places, they set up shop and start recruiting. The only way to get rid of it and to keep it gone, is constantly being aware in every space that some day a Nazi might show up, and if they do the most important thing is that they leave. If everyone does that, it works. But everyone has to do it, they can't have a safe space because they'll only use it to make everywhere else less safe.
Bannon wasn't just spreading hate and grifting gold, he was running a multimillion Goldman's Sachs venture in third party online micro transactions:
https://www.wired.com/2008/11/ff-ige/
Can't get any crazier right?
You might recognize the CEO Bannon took over from, is the child actor that played Young Gordan Bombay in the Mighty Ducks...
And honestly, I'm like 99% sure it's what started crypto in the first place. The oligarchs got a hit of digital money they control with almost zero oversight, and a couple years later crypto started popping up.
That article is 2008, and the first Bitcoin was created January 2009.
I know this has nothing to do with the US, but honestly Trump, Elon, and Zuck are fully responsible for this with assistance from Putin.
I agree, but that shit goes both ways.
Israel is right wing, as is a lot of the islamists... they're just as bad as the evangelical christians in the usa.
You can't tolerate the intolerant just because they're not walking around with swastikas saluting hitler.
This is like if someone said murders are bad, and you showed up to say "but you can't forget murders are bad".
It's really not. The left has been tolerable to islamists for a while now. All for fear of being called racist. Same goes for Israel, AIPAC is still around with huge dem support. Thankfully a lot of the left has full blown rejected Israel now, but they still don't seem to see that islamists are right wing and not on the side of progress and peace.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned
Tolerable of Muslim, sure...
Tolerable of rightwing extremists regardless of religion, no...
If you can't tell the difference between the two, that would likely cause confusion
Didn't say Muslims did I? I said islamists. And as I pointed out in the article I posted, the left elected islamists because they can't seem to tell the difference.
I'm suripus who youre about to call an Islamist....
Mamdani?
Obama?
Anyone tan er than a piece of blank copy paper?
Hell no, Obama isn't a Muslim and we need more Mamdanis. Did you even read the link? Mamdani didn't spew his religion around at all, he's kept church and state separate like it should be. I just hope he doesn't get bogged down doing the good he has already done by the Dems in NY who hate him.
You're doing the same shit that other progressives do, afraid to call out islamists and give them a pass cause you think you will get called a racist. A right wing authoritarian prick is a right wing authoritarian prick no matter what color their skin is.
I just wanted to make sure your one example was over a decade ago about the city council for a "city" of less than 30k people....
Maybe if you're nice, we can cover who actually voted for them and what their political leanings were (hint: conservative, not progressive).
But honestly there's a lot more after that, and I don't think I'm gonna hang around long enough for you to understand, I'm probably just gonna give up on helping you.
First off Dearborn is not conservative... they're historically dem...they voted 68% for Biden in the election. So no you're completely wrong.
Second, This isn't something that's not been discussed and is a new thing. Plenty of scholars have written about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Muslim_vote
The actual fuck are you talking about?
Your link is for Hamtramck
"Scholars"?!?
No one is debating that sometimes Muslims vote progressive or something progressives vote for Muslims. The answer will never be 100% either way.
You said you wanted to talk about your link, but you've got the location wrong you don't understand it was conservative politicians elected by conservative voters and I'm struggling to think of any excuse for why you think that link is valid
I've sure as shit wasted enough time as you as an individual though
My bad, Hamtramck is still historically a dem stronghold.
You didn't even read the link did you...
The left gives islamists a pass a whole lot. Let's stop pretending they don't.
Again, Hamtramck is a blue voting area.
https://bestneighborhood.org/conservative-vs-liberal-map-hamtramck-mi/
What?