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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's not social media itself, it's social media companies tolerating the intolerant.

Back in the day nazis recruited at punk shows, so when they showed up you punched them in the face and they left. Fucking easiest 2 minute conflict resolution ever and it kept them check for decades while letting teenage punks have a valid target for their rage.

Then daytime TV (Springer, Ricky lake, that shit) started bringing them on, and letting them get their message out, and they capitalized on that with early webpages and forums. Creating the same recruitment pipeline they use today, because people can't physically punch them in the face online.

The mods/admins have to do that with bans.

When they don't, it's for the same reason as Springer. They want the conflict because conflict attracts eyeballs. But all it does is help nazis recruit.

There can't be any tolerance of the intolerant.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I know this has nothing to do with the US, but honestly Trump, Elon, and Zuck are fully responsible for this with assistance from Putin.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There can't be any tolerance of the intolerant.

I agree, but that shit goes both ways.

Israel is right wing, as is a lot of the islamists... they're just as bad as the evangelical christians in the usa.

You can't tolerate the intolerant just because they're not walking around with swastikas saluting hitler.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is like if someone said murders are bad, and you showed up to say "but you can't forget murders are bad".

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's really not. The left has been tolerable to islamists for a while now. All for fear of being called racist. Same goes for Israel, AIPAC is still around with huge dem support. Thankfully a lot of the left has full blown rejected Israel now, but they still don't seem to see that islamists are right wing and not on the side of progress and peace.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

tolerable to islamists

Tolerable of Muslim, sure...

Tolerable of rightwing extremists regardless of religion, no...

If you can't tell the difference between the two, that would likely cause confusion

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't say Muslims did I? I said islamists. And as I pointed out in the article I posted, the left elected islamists because they can't seem to tell the difference.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the left elected islamists

I'm suripus who youre about to call an Islamist....

Mamdani?

Obama?

Anyone tan er than a piece of blank copy paper?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hell no, Obama isn't a Muslim and we need more Mamdanis. Did you even read the link? Mamdani didn't spew his religion around at all, he's kept church and state separate like it should be. I just hope he doesn't get bogged down doing the good he has already done by the Dems in NY who hate him.

You're doing the same shit that other progressives do, afraid to call out islamists and give them a pass cause you think you will get called a racist. A right wing authoritarian prick is a right wing authoritarian prick no matter what color their skin is.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I just wanted to make sure your one example was over a decade ago about the city council for a "city" of less than 30k people....

Maybe if you're nice, we can cover who actually voted for them and what their political leanings were (hint: conservative, not progressive).

But honestly there's a lot more after that, and I don't think I'm gonna hang around long enough for you to understand, I'm probably just gonna give up on helping you.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First off Dearborn is not conservative... they're historically dem...they voted 68% for Biden in the election. So no you're completely wrong.

Second, This isn't something that's not been discussed and is a new thing. Plenty of scholars have written about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Muslim_vote

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Dearborn

The actual fuck are you talking about?

Your link is for Hamtramck

Plenty of scholars have written about it.

"Scholars"?!?

No one is debating that sometimes Muslims vote progressive or something progressives vote for Muslims. The answer will never be 100% either way.

You said you wanted to talk about your link, but you've got the location wrong you don't understand it was conservative politicians elected by conservative voters and I'm struggling to think of any excuse for why you think that link is valid

I've sure as shit wasted enough time as you as an individual though

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Your link is for Hamtramck

My bad, Hamtramck is still historically a dem stronghold.

"Scholars"?!?

You didn't even read the link did you...

No one is debating that sometimes Muslims vote progressive or something progressives vote for Muslims. The answer will never be 100% either way.

The left gives islamists a pass a whole lot. Let's stop pretending they don't.

You said you wanted to talk about your link, but you've got the location wrong you don't understand it was conservative politicians elected by conservative voters and I'm struggling to think of any excuse for why you think that link is valid

Again, Hamtramck is a blue voting area.

https://bestneighborhood.org/conservative-vs-liberal-map-hamtramck-mi/

I've sure as shit wasted enough time as you as an individual though

What?

[–] Somecall_metim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would blame the racists myself...

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

the social media bubbles embolden them by making them feel like more connected to other racists...

[–] UkrainianBull@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago

This just feels like another excuse to push """age verification""" and digital ID

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Nobody taking the bait

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

I blame more people reporting them

[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 week ago

Social media is just an avenue. Multiculturalism is a better explanation.