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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Protesting? I am talking mutual aide and survival programs that simultaneously agitated the status quo.

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Show me where that has made a difference though? That's my point we are pretty much powerless in today's society to do much of anything that will cause change

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Aside from winning the right to vote? We owe to the black panthers the free school breakfast program. But they too recognized how the system makes us powerless, which is why they sought a dual power structure

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What was that 50-60 plus years ago? Since then nothing has worked to make things better for the common person. If anything they are worse now. Since at least LBJ the conservatives have been trying to set up the system as it is today. They have been playing the long long long game and it's worked. Americans today are far too dumb and lazy to ever go on a months long boycott of anything. Nobody wants to be inconvenience. I'm too old and tired to be fighting for our rights like I used to. Young people will have to do it, but they are not

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Seems you're not too tired to lecture others though

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I see the point went right over your head

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, I am just tired of hearing people say they aren't going to do shit but tell others how they need to act. You think we aren't just as tired if not more? Plenty of people did more than either of us with less resources but you're here to "be right" instead of "doing good". Like you're still on the liberal myth that all we need to do is change enough minds and that will fix the problem. It is time to learn some new points.

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've "been doing" for the last 30 years. How many protests have you gone to, I've gone to so many I can't even count them, how many sit ins have you done? How many abortion clinics have to stood outside to protect those who need the services? I've stood outside of countless clinics. I've done the footwork, nothing has changed, as a matter of fact it's gotten even worse. I'm fucking sick of fighting for rights when ¾ of this fucking country can't even bother to vote

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 9 hours ago

I remember an old friend visiting before Trump's first win. He protested the wars and was part of occupy Wallstreet. He too was disillusioned by the apathy of his fellow Americans. He learned a different lesson and was cheering on Clinton's loss. What we all have in common is a deep cynicism towards the majority and while it might be "right", it is not a helpful framework for getting out of our current predicament.