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Every cell phone and a shit-ton of IoT runs on IPv6. There's a lot of phones out there. I bet you even have one, no? You are using IPv6 right now.
But if you really want to know why, first learn how to count in binary. It's gonna be much harder than you expected.
Then learn how to count in hex. Boy, that's fun.
Now convert them back and forth. Yay, what a good time!
This is a byte. Starting from the right, each place doubles. No, its not backwards, it just feels that way.
1111 1111
128 | 64 | 32 | 16 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 1
Add up the places. You can write any number from 0 to 255 this way.
You've seen that 255 number a lot. Maybe this dotted decimal notation will look familiar.
255.255.255.0
For this number (a subnet mask) each of the first three positions is maxed out, and zero is ... zero.
Let's write it in binary.
1111 1111 . 1111 1111 . 1111 1111 . 0000 0000
Does your head hurt yet? It will.
Now let's convert it to hex.
Ya you got it. It's base-16 integers. So you hit 10 and start counting in alpha.
0 0
1 1
2 2
3 3
4 4
5 5
6 6
7 7
8 8
9 9
10 A
11 B
12 C
13 D
14 E
15 F
This is a nibble. It's half a byte. Ya, that's a little funny some nerd farted out one day.
1 1 1 1
8 | 4 | 2 | 1
The max value of a nibble is ... 15.
And 15 is ... F
Split the byte into nibbles. Convert the two nibbles to hex.
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
(15) (15)
FF
So let's do the whole subnet mask.
255.255.255.0
1111 1111 . 1111 1111 . 1111 1111 . 0000 0000
(15) (15) . (15) (15) . (15) (15) . (0) (0)
FF:FF:FF:00
And that, my friend, is some of the very simplest hex math you are likely to see.
In order to convert it from a number you understand, you have to run through binary, chop it in half, and recreate it as hex.
It gets much more complex than this, and that's just basic numerical manipulation.
This is already too long, and I haven't even written an IPv6 number yet.
We are just managing single digits here.
Why don't people like IPv6? Well, its hard.
What's the use case for a human ever having to do this manually?
Glad you asked. Gives me a chance to address the unexpected (??!) downvotes.
Maybe I made someone feel dumb? I can only hope. :]
I'm a network engineer. I recently passed the Cisco CCNA. About 20% of the test was subnetting and IPv6.
These skills are core to building networks, and you must demonstrate competency with the raw numerical manipulation.
its not about the doing. its about understanding the underlying data that forms the structure
The 'doing' part is more important that you indicate.
It's easy once you get used to it. But yes, imo still needing to manually handle IPs is a major failure of IPv6. We recognized we needed many and therefore long addresses, but we forgot the human in the process.
This still only talks about the how, I don't see why anyone would ever need to do these operations. Other than copy pasting them around for configuration purposes, why does it matter what form they take?
That's what I'm saying. Currently you copy paste if possible or read it off a screen if not. Then you carry it to a network partner. See printers and static IPs.
Well, for 25 years of my career I got by using the subnet cheat sheet. (https://www.aelius.com/njh/subnet_sheet.html)
And then I got passed over for a couple jobs and decided to get the CCNA.
These skills are requisite. Mandatory. You ain't passing without demonstrating competency in the above dance of digits.
I can write that entire subnet chart out from scratch and first principles now.