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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think the much simpler explanation is that corrupt and unscrupulous politicians are lining their own pockets or profiting in other ways.

Germany supplies weapons to Israel, which is a multi-billion-dollar business. Furthermore, Israel is particularly influential in the U.S., which is why a good relationship with Israel is, so to speak, a prerequisite for relations with the U.S.—it is no coincidence that it is precisely those countries that are closely linked to the U.S. that also support Israel.

The fact that Germany doesn’t even shy away from targeting Jewish organizations that call Israel’s actions what they are is simply the same tactic that is always used to silence legitimate criticism. Germany, incidentally in a Bundestag vote that coincidentally took place on the day of a popular soccer match, adopted a definition of anti-Semitism that, for example, brands any comparison of Israeli crimes with those of Nazi Germany as anti-Semitism. Of course, this is absurd, but it is a tool that can also be used against Jewish critics.

This, in turn, is fully in line with Israel’s strategy, which has always used this argument to silence critics. For Jewish critics, Zionism has even developed the completely absurd construct of Jewish self-hatred.

In short: Germany’s support can plausibly be explained by greed and political opportunism. It is simply about money and power.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Germany is very, very exceptional in Europe when it comes to its support of Israel, the only equivalent country being Britain.

As it so happens I lived in Britain for a while and thus know that the current Prime Minister there got his job thanks to the support of Israel-linked Jewish Groups (who helped him overthrown the previous leader of his party with a slander campaign with accusations of anti-semitism which were so wild that they even accused a Jewish Holocaust Survivor of being an anti-semite to get at said leader by association, and then his party naturally got into government since over there they have First Past The Post, not Proportional Vote).

Anyways, the political and money elites in quite a lot of other European nations also have the greed motive to want to support Israel, but except for Britain the rest haven't gone anywhere close to the level of Germany.

Hence I think that some element of real anti-semitism is part of the explanation for Germany's extraordinary support of Israel when compared with the rest of Europe.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I think it’s out of the question that there’s an anti-Semitic conspiracy going on here, as you suspect. The reason: Religion is always just a means to an end for power-hungry politicians. The best example is that orange pedo in the White House—he pretends to be a fundamentalist Christian, but that’s very obviously just a cover to achieve his goals, which are to enrich himself and his cronies as much as possible.

The same applies to Netanyahu, against whom a case involving billions in corruption has been pending for years, a case that has never been prosecuted due to the ongoing state of war.

The two have one thing in common: their absolute ruthlessness—and that is precisely what characterizes their ilk. These people will literally walk over dead bodies. In my opinion, this has not the slightest thing to do with religion.

Edit: The UK is likely the US’s closest ally, and the modern German state was largely established under US occupation (East Germany was under Russian control but collapsed before the Soviet Union did). Both countries therefore have historically particularly close ties to the US. Furthermore, if we’re honest, European criticism of Israel’s crimes comes exclusively from Spain.