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Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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[–] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two counter points:

First is gunpowder is a weapon that does level playing field between two people who have different amounts of strength. What I mean is a 6foot 250 lb muscle builder is just as deadly as a 90 year old grand ma.

You have to acknowledge that point even if I agreed to your points.

Unlike all other weapons strength doesn't matter for a gun. Basic biology that women are physically weaker than men. Yes some suggested that a woman shooting a guy in self-defense should be legal and mostly is.

The second is is you are wildly wrong about having access to drugs. I'm surprised you are suggesting that the average American household doesn't have a lethal dose in their medicine cabinet.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What I mean is a 6foot 250 lb muscle builder is just as deadly as a 90 year old grand ma.

Sure, in some bizarre labratory conditions that don't reflect reality, the body builder and the grandma have equal capacity to murder anyone they want.

But that's almost never how it plays out. Do you know who actually wins in that matchup? Whoever is the shittest person.

Is the grandma deeply racist and the body builder black? Then all my money is on the grandma. Is the body builder far-right and opening fire on a family having a day out with grandma? Then all my money is on the Nazi.

But of course, we don't have to talk about convoluted hypothetical scenarios. The pro-gun community had dictated the gun laws for 25 years, promising shit like "a level playing field" the entire time, despite it been a deeply fucked way of describing people fighting for their lives.

So why are none of these promises coming true? Why are women and minorities less safe in America compared to other wealthy countries? Why are the crime rates in America basically the same despite tolerating children being executed en masse every few months?

If these gun laws keep us safe from tyranny, why are there fascists preparing for an election, enthusiastically cheered on by the the pro-gun community?

When they inevitably lose and arrange their next attack on the Capitol, puffing their chests out with pro-gun pride and executing anyone who stands in their way, are you going tell us just how level the playing field was?

The second is is you are wildly wrong about having access to drugs. I'm surprised you are suggesting that the average American household doesn't have a lethal dose in their medicine cabinet.

Most of then also have a lethal amount of bleach too but believe it or not, most suicidal people would rather not torture themselves to death.

Just because something is theoretically fatal doesn't mean it's a suicide risk.