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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If fast-food workers began earning wages comparable to electricians, I wouldn't necessarily expect electricians to become poorer. I'd expect employers who depend on skilled labor to increase compensation to remain competitive. The question then becomes whether those higher labor costs come from reduced profits, increased prices, greater productivity, or some combination of all three.

Anyway, it is better for all workers.

[–] lime@feddit.nu -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

what you'd actually see is increased unemployment, because that's the most effective regulator of salaries. the system requires a mass of people without jobs in order to balance itself.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the system requires a mass of people without jobs in order to balance itself.

I don't know where you got this idea, it seems more like the system requires desperate people and lack of jobs does help in causing that. However, fuck the system

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it's pretty simple; given offers of two identical jobs with different benefits, you'd pick the better one. if there isn't enough people to fill all open positions, employers need to compete by raising benefits. in short, price follows demand. the more people that are looking for jobs, the lower employers can push salaries and still hire someone.

when neolibs campaign on how "everyone should have a job" and use that as an excuse to cut unemployment benefits, that's them trying to distract from the fact that unemployment is necessary for the system they built to function. as unemployment approaches zero, salaries approach infinity.

so yeah, fuck that system.

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A few percent of job seekers as structural unemployment supports a healthy economy where people change jobs and careers to match changes in labor needs.

That doesn't mean an increase in minimum wage increases unemployment. There are hundreds of academic studies investigating that question, and it seems the increased economic activity of low-income people having more money generates enough new jobs to at least balance whatever job cuts happen due to the higher labor costs (low-income people tend to spend all their money, so they are more effective agents of short term economic stimulus than higher-income households that tend to save some of it).

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

i was more thinking the other way round, that an increase in unemployment decreases wages.

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Increased unemployment can lead to decreased wages, depending on other factors. I had read your post above as claiming a multipart chain of higher minimum wage -> increased unemployment -> decreased wages, and my post was intended to address the first link (higher minimum wage -> increased unemployment), not the second.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 4 weeks ago

i don't think i even made the first claim, at least i didn't intend to.