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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The church in Discovery.

I am convinced that they put it there without having an explanation yet, then forgot they did it when they made the explanation.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What? It was explained that the church and the people in it were yanked from certain destruction in WWIII to Terralysium by the red angel. It is spelled out in the season arc.

You don't like Disco, fine. But your lack of attention to the story is not the show's fault.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The red angel, who is supposed to be either Burnham or her mother, and neither of them had a reason to go back in time to save a random church, and teleport it to a random planet. Also absolutely no mention of how they would achieve such a thing.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Gabrielle basically used the church as an experiment in altering history.

Time's motion depends on the observer, on the action. The people I was able to move from Earth to Terralysium, as they call my planet, are thriving. Their survival means that time is fluid. The future can be changed. Maybe the past, as well.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It feels a bit pulled out of nowhere though. If it was the plan from the start, it's not very good writing.

[–] unknown@piefed.social 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Lmao it's Star Trek, of course the writing isn't good. You guys claim to love all the shit writing in other Trek shows, so why do so many of you shit on Discovery for ir in particular, I wonder?

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

There's a lot of shit writing in all the star treks (less so in lower decks maybe) but discovery is consistently, deeply badly written, and in ways that often have a pretty bad underlying meaning.

And also, people complain on Discovery for different reasons. Nazis find it too woke because they don't pretend that lgbt people don't exist, I find it fakely woke but actually discriminating against minorities while pretending to defend them.

In a way, Discovery is a shittily written, enlightened-centrist version of star trek, so I think it's good that people shit on it. Now people should obviously shit on a lot of other star treks like Enterprise and Picard, but I'm certainly not going to stop shitting on discovery in the meanwhile.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh, Discovery just made no sense in a million ways. My (least) favorite is how Control was sentient AI like a century before Data was a thing, or even M-5. That and every time Section 31 was acknowledged as Starfleet black ops instead of a rogue agency of assholes.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Let's not forget the part where they want to go in the future to stop control because they think they can't destroy it, then control gets destroyed, then they go in the future anyway.

Also, I don't think any star trek depicted section 31 in a way that didn't make the show worse, but Discovery really went the extra mile

[–] themoken@startrek.website 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I think DS9 did Section 31 right, as the bad guys to be foiled, as anathema to Starfleet's ideals, but yeah every other show seems to miss the point.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 21 hours ago

The best part of DS9's Section 31 was that Section 31 knew they were the bad guys too.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, they were still trying to show it as James Bond-cool (which I mean, works if you see that James Bond is pretty problematic, but most people don't)... They were shown as a bit evil, but also as the "cool, edgy dudes that do what needs to be done", but other shows managed to do worse somehow.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 8 points 20 hours ago

All I know is that Sisko, Bashir, and O'Brien all identify Section 31 as non-Starfleet assholes that need to be stopped at all costs. Discovery has Pike practically saluting Section 31 genocidal Empress Georgiou and revering the black badges in a way I'll never forgive it for.

[–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

Well, Lower Decks maybe almost improved on that formula? And with a fun little joke about the black badges, too.