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[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Warp 10 and salamanders. Great examples πŸ‘Œ

But what about TNG 7x09, the one where we learn that warp travel damages subspace and that a warp speed limit is the solution?

Later, the Federation Council issues a new directive limiting all Federation vessels to a speed of warp five except in extreme emergencies.

Laughs in Janeway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_of_Nature_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago

janeway? I don't think ships stranded so far they are unlikely to get back are going to be obeying speed edicts. the whole setup is an extreme emergency.

[–] directive0@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Isnt the warp speed limit part of the in universe reason that Voyager has new variable nacelle geometry?

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I had no idea they were related, but apparently they were (thanks πŸ˜‰). But that too was soon retconned:

According to comments by Michael and Denise Okuda, when mentioning of the speed limit was abandoned a few years after "Force of Nature", it was assumed that newer ships, such as the USS Voyager and USS Defiant, had improved environmentally friendly warp drive systems, that did not cause damage to the spatial continuum.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Variable_geometry_pylon

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's technically not canon anyway, and I don't really like it as an explanation, since we don't see variable-geometry nacelles on other ships of the era.

Best to assume they solved the subspace damage problem through some other means, IMO.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 8 hours ago

I like to think a party got elected that felt warp speed tearing up subspace was a fakenewz hoax.