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Seems like he's been pushed into using LLMs as a way to cope with the deluge of LLM-generated security reports.

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[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I run Qwen 3.6 27B at home. For “free”. It is extremely useful.

My point being that I’m not going to be priced out of using it

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What hardware that needs? My issue with running local models was that it's too much of a resource hog to be able to do gamedev on the same machine, and any sensible model needs pretty expensive hardware to just get a server for it. Especially with current prices.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

64GB unified memory. I run it (and a lot more) on a dgx spark, but a Mac mini would suffice also.

You could prob run 4-bit version on a RTX card with 32g. Maybe even 24g. Like a 5090 or 4090 or such.

So much info out there.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mac Minis top out at 48GB and are 1.8k when configured like that. It's going to be at least $2k to buy anything that has a hope of running it at a reasonable speed.

Running local isn't free, but at least it's just a single upfront payment.

[–] Darkaga@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The M4 Pro Mac Mini caps out at 64GB RAM. Whether or not Apple can sell you that SKU right now is a different question with the ongoing DRAM shortage.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

That (64GB) doesn't appear on the site at the moment.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Geforce 3090 with 24TB should be able to run a "Q5 version" of it. Maybe get a second older computer, or maybe you can run two cards in one PC.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't worry, they want to replace your hardware with a "cloud based computing solution" as well.

When did that absurdity come back? I thought we killed the cloud computer nonsense a decade ago.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well you see... subscriptions.

[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well you aren't a brain dead business man then.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

qwen is garbage. it can't even count the elements within an array of numbers.

to be clear though, it's not just qwen. all code models are fucking trash.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

See, this is what people say when they say "people who can code" are doing good things with these LLMs.

Why the fuck would you ask the model to count elements?

Ask it to make a python script that will do the counting, then run the script.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

compare these two arrays and tell me what the difference is

are these two arrays similar?

are these not legitimate questions? sure I could do them in-code, but is it not faster to just ask it?

See, this is what people say when they say "people who can code" are doing good things with these LLMs.

first time I ever had a clanker insinuate my skill level is below their own. thanks for the chuckle.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok. Also I am sorry the audience of Stack Overflow dried up for folks to use as punching bags.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

what are you even talking about?

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you sure you were using the actual coding model? There are a number of them

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yep, while I don't use them myself, I saw the output of the latest models at the beginning of May. While there are some "good" things in it, the vast majority of the output was unnecessary maintenance load or just wrong. And, while the person showing off the output claimed they couldn't have written the code, I didn't see anything particularly special.

On top of that, I don't believe the output of Qwen (or any other coding model) can be distributed without violating a large number of copyrights, so it's entirely inappropriate for FOSS projects.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't believe the output of Qwen (or any other coding model) can be distributed without violating a large number of copyrights

I have a perfect example for that. I asked Qwen to write a simple python socket app. one for server and one for client.

While I was reading through forum posts about python socket communication, I found a post from 8 years ago. same script. same variable names. same comments. word for word. line for line. the same exact script.

so much for AI "not stealing content".

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your post here reads like AI funnily enough

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you're absolutely right. I'm just old though and this is how we talk.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess it's like telling someone they seem to be coming down with a cold, they probably already know

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

it's a particular pita for me because I use bullets, try to use perfect spelling, and try my best at punctuation.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

didn't even test

Into the trash it goes