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Driver facing camera in cars (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 month ago by aikhae@lemmy.ohaa.xyz to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn't actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.

The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some "AI magic", I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.

I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.

When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or "nice feature actually", "what about the camera on your laptop?", "you are way too paranoid", "I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded".

I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.

What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn't really find any information about it on the internet.

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never mind the surveillance state run by fascists who want nothing more than a neutered population that lets them do what they want.

Or the fact that the world is building data centers on behalf of techbros that openly state that they want to control the entire population through limiting their access to information and rendering it a subscription

Or the manipulation of public opinion through 24h news cycles and infinite pundits online that pick and choose their words very carefully to make people believe what the news station owners want them to think (and I quote) "He's telling them what to think. That's our job."/"This is very dangerous to our democracy."

Or the petrochemical companies paying billions to super pacs and lobbying groups so that anti pollution laws don't get pushed and the media circus doesn't talk about how many spills there are, or why our air is becomic toxic, or why the things that climate scientists have been warning the world about are coming true one after another.

It's aaaaallll just a "conspiracy theory"

Nothing to see. In the words of an amazon manager standing over a dying colleague instead of calling an ambulance "Lets not look, Get back to work"

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the surveillance state

The "surveillance state" that creates EU laws that required this camera?

You just put out a bunch of random, unconnected things so yeah, you're a dumbfuck conspiracy theorist and an embarrassment to logical thinking.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

The laws that make it a requirement for cars to surveil their occupants at all times and analyse their face, what they're looking at, what they're doing at all times?

The laws that are created by the state to make surveillance mandatory. THAT surveillance state.

I brought up techbros building data centers because where do you think all the information from these cameras is being stored and analysed?

I brought up the mass media circus because that's what's used to force a pubpic opinion on topics such as this by obfuscating any potential negative opinions as 'whackjob conspiracy theories' or in the form of calling anyone with doubts on LLMs and ML algos being called intelligent 'the new luddites'

(Or worse yet, the americans deciding that any anti AI or anti datacenter language is on par with domestic terrorism)

Keep enjoying your yam. Don't mind the sound of the jackboots against your neigbours door, you have nothing to hide and thus of course, nothing to fear.