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Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn't actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.

The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some "AI magic", I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.

I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.

When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or "nice feature actually", "what about the camera on your laptop?", "you are way too paranoid", "I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded".

I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.

What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn't really find any information about it on the internet.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

The car complains when the camera is covered. At a minimum that means making annoying sounds every time you drive anywhere, at worst the car doesn't let you drive. You can't just dismiss this, it's going to happen more and more, and they will be increasingly hostile to your workarounds.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 1 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

Break the camera? Remove it? Scratch the lens?

[–] Nerdulous@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 minutes ago

THE CAR COMPLAINS WHEN THE CAMERA DOESN'T SEE YOUR FUCKING FACE FUCKNUT

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 2 points 31 minutes ago

I'd just cover it or break it 🤷

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

In many states any information not disclosed by the seller is grounds for you canceling the deal. But you would have to look that up for where you live. Or there's black tape, but then you're still paying for a camera you didn't want, aren't using, and weren't told about.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 hours ago (6 children)

You have to log your profile into your car?? Fuck everything about that!

[–] SirActionSack@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My car has profiles for seat position, mirror position, radio settings etc but it's just Driver 1 and Driver 2 and you select with a button.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

You're basically trying to convince a medieval peasant that your so-called "antibiotic" potion can cure their disease but is definitely not witchcraft. Good luck wit dat!

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[–] qaeta@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 hours ago

"what about the camera on your laptop?"

My personal laptop does not have a camera, and my work laptop has a physical camera blocker.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

Some of these dorks out here would fr be supportive of a "smart" camera in their toilet looking straight at their hole/s. "I have nothing to hide, its just videos of me pooping"

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Nope. Take it right back.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Fucking hell.

I'll be sticking with 2015 and older for as long as I can.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Does your state have a lemon law? If you can, return the car as it's clearly defective.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Wait till the 2027 gets the seat rectal probe to verify you by your large intestine. Also, they sell the data to health insurance providers.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 points 16 minutes ago

Wait I thought we were talking about bad features...

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

"It" from South Park might as well be a reality.

Possibly NSFW

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 hours ago

anybody that doesn't think its an issue is an idiot

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean I would like a dashcam that records front, my face and out the rear window. But it has to be under MY control.

I'd never buy a car with a camera I can't control. No doubt they'll soon turn it into some subscription shit or spy on you.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I do find this attitude interesting. You don't want yourself to be recorded, but you'll happily record random pedestrians without their knowledge or consent.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's to disempower you. All of this is to further disempower the masses.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 24 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

That’d be getting covered immediately if it ended up in a car of mine

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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

It will be used against you at every opportunity.

[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Honestly I only think it's fair, to also have the driver be subject to surveillance, when they knowingly expose others to the car's exterior cameras.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 points 15 minutes ago

I have nothing against personal dash cams. I don't like them internet connected.

[–] Trilogy3452@lemmy.world 50 points 5 hours ago

"Your insurance claim is denied, our algorithm says it's 70% confident your eyes were dilated in a way consistent with taking alcohol. Also, here's your court hearing date"

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