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Driver facing camera in cars (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 month ago by aikhae@lemmy.ohaa.xyz to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn't actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.

The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some "AI magic", I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.

I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.

When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or "nice feature actually", "what about the camera on your laptop?", "you are way too paranoid", "I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded".

I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.

What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn't really find any information about it on the internet.

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[–] OrgunDonor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't think it is fair to call them morons, ignorant definitely though. I imagine that so many of these people don't understand or know, how invasive a modern car is. And it is probably something they have never thought about or looked into.

Ignorance is bad, but can be fixed. Morons I don't think can really be taught, and would probably ignore the evidence of how bad it is.

[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The reason for the insult is less about not knowing how invasive modern cars are and more about the often repeated "I have nothing to hide" comment. It just shows how little they think these kinds of situations through. Unless they are very young, it also shows that any previous privacy related discussion went right by them, or they also answered the same way back than as well.

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Agree. I think there's even yet a third type. People who are not ignorant, and also not morons. But they are soooo far into a sunk cost fallacy that they will find endless rationalizations. And if they're smart ppl, which some of 'em are, they can be very clever at finding rationaliztaions.