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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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In multiple ways, we are seeing the end of the oil age.

Change is coming.

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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean, if you believe in capitalism as many of our dear leaders do, you wouldn't feel a need to "ask people" about limiting usage. As a product becomes more expensive, eventually people will naturally limit usage and purchase another cheaper product.

Not saying that's correct or how it works but might explain the behavior.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

The answer to this in capitalism is Keynesian economics. Raise tariffs to reduce demand and redistribute that money to everyone (through public works; lowering other taxes; universal basic income; or literally burning the money to reduce inflation and make people richer in proportion to their wealth).

Unfortunately, the capitalism the US government subscribes to is centralization of wealth through insider trading on economic shocks. When those tanks run dry and there is an economic crisis, the white house will have the authority to respond to the crisis. It will communicate its planned response to favored investors, allowing them to make the right investments to profit off the crisis, while investors who don't have the white house's favor have to guess and will therefore end up transferring wealth to those with better information through the stock market.

Elon Musk is a trillionaire because he has the white house's favor, and so insider trading on government policy has exploded his wealth. When these oil reserves run dry, the white house will choose some response, and whatever that response is the white house's clients will be in the right place at the right time to make a profit.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The price of it has barely changed here

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not sure where you live but it shut down an entire low-cost budget airline for low-income people in the USA

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

UK, tbh an airline shutting down sounds like rich people problems so I don't overly care.

[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

“ a lowcost Budget airline for low income people” shutting down

A rich persons problem?

Bruh, the rich didn’t fly spirit.. and even if they did they still have options.. like yeah some rich asshole lost their company but this hits low income travelers much harder than the rich.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's also beside the point. They said oil prices "barely changed" but whatever their definition of "barely" is, they changed enough to bankrupt a big company.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Poor people don't fly, period

[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Are you poor?

Cause I’ve been poor my whole life until the last few years. Mom worked three jobs so we could eat Mac and cheese every night growing up. Been homeless multiple times even… You severely underestimate the craftyness, resourcefulness, and tenacity of the poor.

I’m not talking about flying for a luxury vacation, shit, I’m not even talking about making a wedding, funeral, or birth, ya know big things. I’m talking about have to’s.. like mom in the hospital 8 states away. Grandma being foreclosed on and can’t afford assisted living and somebody has to be there,

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You are fucking flying, you have enough money that I don't care.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Spirit was like $20 to fly on I'm not joking. Some flights were so cheap I've had more expensive meals at subway

[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

lol I don’t fly, but for someone in my shoes whose brother lives across the country, my options are either a full 1,200 mile / 18+hr drive or $180-300 on a 5hr flight to and from while also saving wear on my car, or to just not see my brother.

I prefer the third option as my brother is trash, but be for real. The airline that went down made it easier for everyday people that didnt have booku money to fly. Celebrating this as a hit to the rich is civilly tone deaf and naive