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Logging solution that doesn't take a long time to setup / doesn't take a long time to setup (alien.top)

submitted 10 months ago by BouncyPancake@alien.top to c/homelab@selfhosted.forum

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(No offense to some popular solutions in the homelab / self hosting community) Why can't I find a simple logging solution? Most of the popular logging / metric management solutions require, what feels like, a science degree. I just want to setup a logging server, point my servers to it, and maybe configure a few email alerts.

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[–] nderflow@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

FWIW, Prometheus was significantly infuenced by Borgmon; more details, some fun.

AIUI, Prometheus was implemented by a bunch of folks at SoundCloud, some of whom were ex-Google SREs (hi, BR!). Borgmon had some weaknesses (for example, multiple separate templating implementations, for historical reasons) which as far as I know, Prometheus doesn't share. Today, Prometheus advocates include a number of ex-Google SREs. For example Brian Brazil (see book) who if I recall correctly implemented a Turing Machine emulator in Borgmon.

Today, Borgmon has been largely replaced in Google by Monarch, which addresses quite a few of the pain points of operating Borgmon infrastructure, and even manages to remove some of the complexity. Though less than I thought it would, which leaves me wondering how much of the complexity is simply unavoidable because it's inherent in the problem space.