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[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Down voting me doesn't make FPTP not real

[–] wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, but being wrong makes you wrong.

There is a world where the NDP is a viable candidate, and Layton proved that.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely there is, and I would have loved to have voted for a competent NDP candidate in my riding if they had any prayer of winning either my riding or doing anything meaningful at all on a federal level.

I'm still not wrong though.

You wishing the NDP could have run and won in any significant numbers and without risking a PP victory doesn't make it so, and people voting NDP just because they like NDP policy wouldn't have changed that

[–] wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because the election happened in the past

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love how you made this comment within minutes of someone else giving you a single downvote. You are wrong because you misunderstand how power in this system works and how people who aren't in positions of power must navigate the politics of this system to their benefit, not because people think that FPTP isn't a real thing or a factor in elections here.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm still not wrong. For most people in Canada Voting NDP in the last election would effectively have amounted to a pro Tory vote in the majority of ridings

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What source do you want man? Like go to elections Canada and paruse.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're the one talking like you fuckin know shit. Show us.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is it you're expecting me to prove? We have first past the post voting with no proportional representation. That's just a fact

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What an obnoxious fuckin dickhead. You've been talking about this shit and you've never so much as looked up what the results were and whether what you actually say is true?

I'm so fucking done with this moron, point proven.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

I know what the results were, and I don't understand what anyone is expecting to be proved here. My only argument is that our system currently works the way it works, and that wanting it to work differently doesn't make it so.

What do you want me to say exactly? If someone votes for anyone other than the 2nd place candidate in any riding, during any election, whatever the circumstances, they effectively helped the winner win.

That's a fact of math.