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[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

England said she believes the measure would have fared differently if it was on a ballot with higher voter turnout, like the November general election.

I mean, ya, sure, but... WTF people? Every single one of you making less than $12/hour in Oklahoma had the opportunity to literally vote to give yourselves a huge raise, and a lot of you apparently couldn't be bothered??? Low turnout elections are the perfect opportunity for a small number of people to make a big difference on things like this! You had the advantage!

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hi, when I'm not in China I'm in the Choctaw Nation which is unfortunately in Oklahoma because Mississippi was just too valuable when they were carving out reservations I guess so I can give a lived experience perspective. You're forgetting several key facts of this:

A) Voter suppression here in Oklahoma is real. Not only are you not going to be approved for time off to vote, you'll probably be made fun of, and there will not be many campaigns getting you to try to vote. Also while there's 'anti voter manipulation laws' (aka you can't give water or food to people in line at a polling station, even if its medically necessary, and you can't wear "political" shirts) there's no law and usually no rules stopping you from being armed; so armed people "protect" polling stations.

B) Oklahoma is 50th in education and like 2nd in Churches per capita. This has obvious effects on its population.

C) If you're somehow able to get past the intimidation and lack of polling places... congrats, you've been inundated with propaganda for the entirety of the election cycle. Facebook, which is the most popular social media site in Oklahoma, has had millions of dollars worth of ads pumped into it to spread disinformation on SQ 832. This disinformation campaign was repeated by every major employer, every church, and in every major community center. Which lead to:

D) No one actually supports this in Oklahoma. They believe, genuinely, at best, this will lead to higher prices and just uncap inflation entirely. Oklahoma has been behind the nation in terms of the recent cost of living crisis, but it's just now really starting to come into effect. 2 years ago rent for a two bedroom in rural oklahoma (which is most of Oklahoma) was $400/month. It's now up to $800/month. Anywhere near the two cities it was closer to $1k and now it's up to $1500/month. The propaganda has played on this fact to stoke fear that it'll just shoot up even higher (even though labor costs are practically nothing for rentals and thus don't affect rent prices).

So you have a combination of literally financially not being able to afford voting, literally not being allowed to vote, and of course literally not being informed enough to want to vote because of propaganda.

To add to this Democrats and even socialist orgs which should flourish here give absolutely zero attention or resources to the state. Not that dems would help much here, given the only dems that get elected are Southern Democrats which are just Reagan Republicans except even more racist; but the point remains there's no money countering the big money propaganda being pushed through every available channel.

So this outcome was entirely predictable.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

E) if I don't vote republican now, they ain't gonna let me on the yacht party when I, myself, am eventually (VERY soon actually I think) a billionaire.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the information, super insightful.