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To be clear, before anyone shows up with like "I shot low light and it was fine" - no you didn't. I'm talking darkness, lit only by minimal mobile dj lighting, or even low ambient lighting. I was at an elks club last night and.. jesus christ.

My settings for events (dance floor) are typically in the range of 1600-3200, 1/125-200 depending on where I want the background, and f1.2. Flash is TTL but if it's not consistent 1/64-1/32 is usually great. Bouncing with a magsphere. In this case it was the 50 1.2 Z. I'm also in 'starlight mode', which increases the LV it's able to shoot in. Sidenote: Nikon needs to add an option to keep the LCD at normal brightness but enable the extra LV latitude. Or rather, why isn't that always on?

The z9 just.. hunts, a lot. And you can get great photos out of it, I really like the accuracy of TTL here, it almost never misses exposure. Something I never got out of sony. Now the sony, like any mirrorless, had issues in darkness too. But throwing a 1.2 lens on there usually solved that to the point where I could focus reliably. Not so with the z9. Thing just doesn't find faces, and I found actually the best way is not to just do 3d or center AF point only, but throw it in wide. At which point it finds a face it can actually focus on, and then I just recompose and get the face it picked. It's not perfect, but it works like.. 40% of the time?

A workaround that's annoying is throwing on the video light on my v1/v860iii and illuminating people to focus. I usually do this for groups because I'd have to shoot at 2.8 or above and there's no way the z9 is focusing at that f-stop. But I can't do it all the time because I'd be a beacon and annoy the crowd.

So if anyone has tips, tricks, the secret sauce.. please let me know! I'm not the only one having this issue, my boss also has a z9 and is complaining, and I've seen complaints on facebook groups too. I've been shooting events for almost 20 years and mirrorless for 5ish so it's not a skill issue.

Should I just bite the bullet and grab a d850 and an F mount 50 1.4? Would my zf do any better? I hear it's better in low light, but I tried it and the colors weren't popping as well as the z9. It's also unbalanced with the 50 1.2, which is a beast, and then add a pro flash and its like.. not a great setup to carry.

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[โ€“] fuzzfeatures@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yep - its a symptom of mirrorless cameras. The IDK if you were shooting in af-s or af-c, but if you're using af-s, you can enable the af assist illuminator in the menus. - Custom settings>a12 in firmware 4.1 Also.. take off your lens hood. The af assist led can very easily be blocked by it.

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The reason for low light af issues is that Nikon cameras and possibly all mirrorless cameras have the focus sensor behind the green filter and as such your red/infrared af-assist lamp on your flash is utterly useless i'm afraid. Its really annoying that even several years after mirrorless cameras appeared, there are no speedlights out there with a green af assist lamp. Grrrrrrr.