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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 182 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Software engineer, here. Yep, the burnout is real. I consider myself fortunate, however; with the skyrocketing cost of AI, my employer has been urging us to do as much as possible by hand lately to cut back on token usage.

I think that's pretty much where the entire industry will go soon.

[–] Xuntari@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really hope you're right. My company is still in the "use as much as possible" phase, and my manager is quoting Jensen about "you need to use half your salary on tokens!". I'm looking for other work, but everyone is looking for vibe coders at the moment it seems...

I've gone from really loving my job, to hate my life.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Mo Bitar had a bit of advice that I think is applicable here: Lie. Claim to be an extreme 10x vibe whatever. Put "AI enablement" (whatever the fuck that means) in your LinkedIn profile. And wherever you get hired, commit to using enormous amounts of tokens as they require.

Then just... write code. Oh, definitely use the LLMs, too, but not for anything important. Set them to work writing BASH scripts or something. Get them burning through tokens to summarize all the corporate documentation you can find. Have agents creating agents to test the output of other agents and report to more agents on what the agents are doing. Meanwhile, do real work. Make sure that for every PR, you have the AI do one thing on it, to give it that code-slop shine.

Sucks that this is where we're at, but it is what it is.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've had LLM generate so many web sites about various random animals I've crammed into a prompt. No one wants web sites about those random animals, but my management is pleased at my token utilization.

Can do my real work and get praised for my actual productivity, and burn the tokens to get praised on AI adoption...

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Clever! And when sanity starts reasserting itself at your company, you can claim you're focusing on saving the company money by reducing your token usage and just... make fewer animal slop websites.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

AI commit messages for artisanal code.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Huh. Maybe I will have a shot at getting a job... Oh, wait, I have 35 years experience, am over 50 and have been unemployed for 16 months. Never mind.

I gave up the humiliating shit show called a job search 3 months ago, and frankly my last job killed any interest in software development anyway.

It's all idiots telling professionals they're wrong and incompetent while blaming them for the ongoing production failures we solved and explained every month for a year but still can't get the code past review because "it does too much". 30 fucking lines of code "does too much". Pompous morons.

We're a threat of competence, and they're excising us relentlessly. I will laugh bitterly as I watch the soon to be torrent of fiascos and lamentations these idiots spout while still finding a way to blame software engineers.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Hey are you me?!

Yeah I wonder how low I will go for a job, it's not bright exactly...

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If, like me, you took it on faith (at the age of 23) that social security will be gone by the time I retire, you have been saving and investingcas much as possible. Then you can get by on low-end work.

Remember, jobs don't really give you prestige. A job is a job. The issue is whether it can help you pay your bills or not.

Note that Social Security is slated to not have enough money for full payments 3 years before I'm due to enroll (for full payments). You'd think I'd have earned Millions with my precognitive skills.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

A bit different over here in the EU I guess, but similar too; got my apartment almost paid off, social security is guaranteed, retirement will be like 1k€/m in like 9 years...

Hopefully RAM prices will have fallen by then 😁, or maybe we old C/C++ devs will be the new COBOL guys...

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that happened to you. I've also seen it happen to a lot of very good engineers I've known over the years. It's truly insane. I know some people who've had to dip into their 401k accounts early just to keep their heads above water, and it's going to be an economy-wide disaster soon.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, I didn't want to retire yet, but like my father before me, the choice was not mine. I saved enough that I should be able to actually retire and survive on part-time low income jobs. Unless the market crashes for a year straight cuz after that I got to start selling stocks.

[–] portifornia@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago

I'm with you, MasterBlaster!

It sucks for lots of us, more every day, so at least we're not miserable, alone.

[–] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah based on WYEA’s articles recently I would say that is the case. As providers move to token based billing, trying to find a way to break even, the rising costs will lower usage, which will probably then drive up costs further as the (imaginary) capital has already been spent on the DCs.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Waiting for that glorious bubble to burst now that they've successfully landed the public with holding the bags

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

with the skyrocketing cost of AI, my employer has been urging us to do as much as possible by hand lately

Meanwhile, my company has forgotten how to write bash scripts... More and more things that could just be bash scripts are being added as stupid Claude.md scripts.

Hahahaha. Let's go! grabs popcorn

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

I have just recently heard of claude.md scripts, care to share some (horror) stories to a newb?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

More and more things that could just be bash scripts are being added as stupid Claude.md scripts.

But they can pay an ongoing subscription cost for the Claude script, and it may sometimes hallucinate.

The bash script would be free forever and keep working unchanged for decades.

It's too soon to know which approach is the right way. (I nearly died of sarcasm, there.)

Anyway, I agree. There may not be enough popcorn for all of this!

[–] DevDave@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wow, that's some brilliant vendor lock in on Anthropic's side.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

The next step is to switch from scripts to prompts, to improve that lock in!

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not that good. Claude skills are cross-compatible with Cursor, and probably other options.

Still good, cos it's locking in to AI in general, but not quite a specific vendor lock-in.

[–] DevDave@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

The modern take of a disturbed idiom is "There is more than one way to microwave a cat!" (disclaimer please don't actually do this).

At or near the bottom of complexity you would think it hard to fuck up "compress this directory and verify they are backed up before deleting the originals" but apparently some of these models have a RNG triggered Uno reverse card so "delete the originals, verify they are backed up, and compress this directory". Also that wasn't a mistake, maybe Claude will infer "they" is a specific set of files, but another model might decide you meant all the dot files at ~/?

Joking aside, the devil is in the details which makes me think even more time will be sunk finding out the RC Cola bottom shelf AI model does things just a bit too differently than Claude.

[–] Gregers@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Why would you want the same result twice?

[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 16 points 2 days ago

my employer has been urging us to do as much as possible by hand

Now that is a palpable irony. So much disruption in this space so some investors could profit off of a tech they don't even understand.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 9 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I've seen a lot of places around me cut back. Thankfully, I'm not forced to use AI directly. We do have it for code reviews (which I don't hate as a concept, but would prefer local models trained on ethically-sourced data).

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ours is trying to cut everything to the bone to avoid admitting AI is not the future.

It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 1 day ago

We have execs trying extremely hard to push products through purchasing that are literally illegal for us to use because of the data being used.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

however; with the skyrocketing cost of AI, my employer has been urging us to do as much as possible by hand lately to cut back on token usage.

and the Slop companies are still losing money... the end result still seems to be more expensive, crappier code, yet most companies seem to be so nearsighted they are not jumping into the spike pit face first

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That was my hope as well. But then my employer gave me 75 times the budget without me asking for it.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Throwing good money after bad just to avoid having to admit they fucked up, huh.

Oh, so you think they fucked up right here? Let them fuck up even harder!

That'll show you!