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[–] Steve@startrek.website 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I recently gave it a try with qwen3.5 and deepseek coder v2. I have a RTX3090 and these are the largest models that can run comfortably on it.

Conclusion, they are both fucking useless. Free tier claude runs circles.

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you just pulled the default version of qwen3.5 from ollama's repo you downloaded a mediocre one that only uses ~6GB.

Check ollama show qwen3.5 and see if you get something like this in the result:

  Model
    architecture        qwen35    
    parameters          9.7B      
    context length      262144    
    embedding length    4096      
    quantization        Q4_K_M 

This is the default version I got when I first tried using ollama without any experience. It worked, but it's a heavily quantized, lower parameter version of the model -- i.e. it's pretty dumb -- compared to what you can actually run on your hardware.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

I will check it later. I loaded whichever one cluade suggested lol

Yeah :(

Were not there yet on consumer rigs.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you serve them with ollama?

It’s basically broken, if you did. Try the same models over API, and you’ll see what I mean.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there an alternative to ollama? The point was to run something locally.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://sleepingrobots.com/dreams/stop-using-ollama/

And that’s not even all of it. Basically they break models in many ways, and they’re slimey Tech Bros.

LM Studio is better, and easy.

If you’re on Nvidia, and want to run optimally, I would use the ik_llama.cpp fork. On AMD, regular llama.cpp. On a Mac, use an MLX runner (Like LM Studio) with an MLX quant (ideally an MLX-DWQ quant).

It’s all pretty technical, and… thats kinda the point. LLMs are just too performance sensitive and too finicky to not have a grasp of how they work. There is no "easy button" to run them without bad results, there can't be.

But if you don’t have time for that and just want to see if it’s worth it, I’d suggest self hosing your own UI, and trying the dirt cheap APIs of models you can theoretically run on your setup. This will give you a “best case” taste of what they’re capable of.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh, and I just saw you have a 3090.

To get more specific, you can actually run way better models than Qwen 3.5 and Deepseek coder (both of which are very obsolete now). The best that's practical depends on how much CPU RAM you have, but at the minimum you can do Qwen 3.6 27B, with a more optimal quant like ones here: https://huggingface.co/ubergarm/Qwen3.6-27B-GGUF/tree/main

Or Gemma 31B QAT: https://huggingface.co/unsloth/gemma-4-31B-it-qat-GGUF

If you have 128GB CPU RAM, I can upload my custom MiMo 2.5 quant. That should "beat" the cheapest Claude, give or take.

If you have 64GB, I'd suggest a quantization of Step 3.7.

If you have 32GB or 48, I'm not sure. I'd need to look if any "small" MoE is actually better than Qwen 27B now.