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A lot of SmartThings devices are not using Zwave, but like ovens connect via WiFi and communicate over their cloud
Yeah, oven is the only one I have, by accident, and it’s disappointing - my goal was induction stove, double oven with air fryer, and ST was the only choice. It’s WiFi only, cloud app only, but there’s an HA integration to the cloud app
Currently I get both ST and HA alerts when my oven is on but that’s the only useful feature. However neither interface works works well with the double oven feature
Well you just have to learn the lesson of not buying cloud connected smarthome stuff the hard way sometimes.
It is not critical by any means, utility of a dual-cook oven is nice, even when it’s not connected to smart home. And so doubt I should be getting any „lesson” from home appliances manufacturer, they should NOT be taking any functionality away. And I don’t believe there are many local only options (are there any you can list for this appliance type?).
NV51CB700S12AA)NV51CG700SSR)NV7B7997AAK)HBG7741B1)HSG7364B1B)HSG7361B1)HRG6767S2A)HB676GBS1)HN678G4S6)H 7260 BP)H 7464 BP)H 7860 BP)Thanks for the list! What do they communicate over? Some proprietary protocol locally over WiFi, or are there any matter/Zigbee options?
The protocol is shown in the right hand column. Matter over thread, the rest over wifi.
Sorry, I’ve missed the columns when looking at it on my phone
@spitfire
At least the Matter compatible products are local and non proprietary by definition, guess that these device use WiFi as Thread would require a border router.
What the fuck do I need to connect my oven to my smarthome for?
Been running Home Assistant for years. never once have I ever considered adding shit like my oven or fridge. The hell would I learn? Ovens get hot, fridges get cold? I could put a temp sensor in the fridge I guess and it would read the same temp all the time. Unless it is a total POS, it's not going to stop doing the ONE thing it does.
Alerts can be good
Sure you can live without any of these. However from the number of times my cleaner turns on the stovetop, if I had little kids i might call it important. From the number of times my mom has left the stove on, if she lived here I might consider it important
In theory, it would be great to have your smart home be able to preheat your oven. Or to turn it off if you forgot to do so.
I doubt any of these stop there though
Seems great in theory and am pretty sure mine could. However the first thing I enabled was “no remote control”. It’s a dangerous idea to allow anyone to turn on the oven when no one is home. It’s a dangerous idea to trust the security of an appliance vendor with the safety of your family
Actually I’m annoyed that it is a binary choice. I don’t want to let anyone turn on the stovetop/oven unattended. But I would prefer to be able to turn it off remotely if someone does. But disabling “burn down the house” mode also disables “stop it before it happens”
It probably helps that this oven preheats very quickly. I don’t see being tempted to save a minute or two
And as for fridges I’d love if mine would report real (not just set) temperature. I’d learn about it failing last time it did, before it defrosted.
@spitfire @aaaa My freezer has a door alarm. Great! Although... The door wasn't completely closed. Sufficiently closed for the alarm to think it was though. And while it's smart freezer (that's not allowed online) it's not smart enough to notice that the inside temperature is now above freezing. Remove the wifi gunk and add rudimentary safety features like this please!
That would be useful.
If it has a temperature probe, monitoring the temperature of the food is useful. Of course you can just buy a wireless thermometer and get the same.
If you have no use (or imagination about how to use it), don’t.